Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

[UTMNC]

Look back over today's post(Mine) and you will see that I have presented my arguments as they pertain to what was being discussed at that time, which was the effectiveness of two players, T. Ginn and A. Gonzalez, and the stastitical fact's backed EVERYTHING I stated. Your beef is not with me on today's post's, your beef is with what happened last year. Which reminds me, I believe I have stated from day ONE, that IMO, I think tOSU has more than a good chance to win, but in a VERY low scoring game. From day one, as soon as the word's low scoring were mentioned, not all, but a large number took that as a knock on Troy Smith and the tOSU offense. Well HELLO, UT is going to have a GREAT defense, and the game is at our house. If the majority here don't like my presence here, tell your moderator and he can cure that with the push of a button, I could care less. Not once in any of my post have I disrespected tOSU, to the one or two who choose as part of their post to include childish name calling, you can coun't on a rebutal, but as for TODAY, all my post were backed up with fact's, if that makes some mad, oh well.

 

[buckeyeboy]

Look back over today's post(Mine) and you will see that I have presented my arguments as they pertain to what was being discussed at that time, which was the effectiveness of two players, T. Ginn and A. Gonzalez, and the stastitical fact's backed EVERYTHING I stated.

I just went back and viewed your posts from today. The only stats that you presented in "support" of your "arguments" were Gonzalez's and Ginn's stats against UT. Care to backpedal any further?

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I'm sorry, but neither Snead nor McCoy in their 2nd-ever game will be near the level of where Henne was in his sixth or seventh game, so that hypothesis is shot. If Vince Young were back, Texas would be the clear--emphasis on clear--per-season #1. If you had a QB that had some semblence of experience replacing Young, you could still have a good argument for being #1. But both your #1 and #2 QBs will have a grand total of four quarters of experience between them when they step on the field against us (and those four quarters will be against somewhat questionable caliber).

What about Sneed?

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Look back over today's post(Mine) and you will see that I have presented my arguments as they pertain to what was being discussed at that time, which was the effectiveness of two players, T. Ginn and A. Gonzalez, and the stastitical fact's backed EVERYTHING I stated. Your beef is not with me on today's post's, your beef is with what happened last year. Which reminds me, I believe I have stated from day ONE, that IMO, I think tOSU has more than a good chance to win, but in a VERY low scoring game. From day one, as soon as the word's low scoring were mentioned, not all, but a large number took that as a knock on Troy Smith and the tOSU offense. Well HELLO, UT is going to have a GREAT defense, and the game is at our house. If the majority here don't like my presence here, tell your moderator and he can cure that with the push of a button, I could care less. Not once in any of my post have I disrespected tOSU, to the one or two who choose as part of their post to include childish name calling, you can coun't on a rebutal, but as for TODAY, all my post were backed up with fact's, if that makes some mad, oh well.

First of all, I have no bitterness about the game last year. You can drop that act also. Putting words in peoples mouth isn't exactly the smartest thing to do. I also didn't call you any childish names...I just called you a troll, which is exactly what you're being.

It's pretty clear that the few good posts you have made (none recently) are concentrated efforts to be good, while your true nature shines through in all your others. If I had the power to, you'd be gone by now.

 

[SanClementeBuck]

utm: take a lesson from your Horn brothers here and cool down. Who, among us Bucks, gives a good shit whether or not you are offended? Take a deep breath, and, think about being stationed in Iraq, as The Point on tonight's excursion into the city.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Look back over today's post(Mine) and you will see that I have presented my arguments as they pertain to what was being discussed at that time, which was the effectiveness of two players, T. Ginn and A. Gonzalez, and the stastitical fact's backed EVERYTHING I stated.

I believe than several folks have pointed out that Ginn didn't have a big game seeing as he was still relatively new at the WR position and also because Holmes was the #1 guy (4 catches for 73 yards and a TD). While Gonzo had only two catches, he made them count for 33 yards. In fact, the lack of involvement by Ginn and Gonzo was much more due to our not throwing the ball much because of alternating the QBs (14-26-0 combined for the two) and spreading the ball to six different receivers, than it was anything else. In fact, aside from Holmes' four catches, the remaining five receivers had two catches each...if that's not spreading the ball around equally I don't know what is.

If you think that Ginn was an "ineffective" receiver last year, just ask Michigan State (57 yd TD catch), Illinois (73 yd TD catch), Michigan (nine catches, including three on the game-winning drive), and Notre Dame (eight catches for 167 yards, including a 56 yd TD catch). The guy had 17 receptions in the two biggest games of the year (aside from the Texas game) for us.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I believe than several folks have pointed out that Ginn didn't have a big game seeing as he was still relatively new at the WR position and also because Holmes was the #1 guy (4 catches for 73 yards and a TD). While Gonzo had only two catches, he made them count for 33 yards. In fact, the lack of involvement by Ginn and Gonzo was much more due to our not throwing the ball much because of alternating the QBs (14-26-0 combined for the two) and spreading the ball to six different receivers, than it was anything else. In fact, aside from Holmes' four catches, the remaining five receivers had two catches each...if that's not spreading the ball around equally I don't know what is.

If you think that Ginn was an "ineffective" receiver last year, just ask Michigan State (57 yd TD catch), Illinois (73 yd TD catch), Michigan (nine catches, including three on the game-winning drive), and Notre Dame (eight catches for 167 yards, including a 56 yd TD catch). The guy had 17 receptions in the two biggest games of the year (aside from the Texas game) for us.

But troll boy isn't afraid because a year ago he had a bad game

 

[t_BuckeyeScott]

Braylon Edwards is a #1 NFL Reciever right now. ScUM really depended on him. Henne looked lost almost all of last year. LOST. I mean ABC's LOST lost. Those reciever for UT couldn't carry Edwards jock. Besides that none of your recievers was a focal point last year. Edwards was the focal point the year before Henne's frosh.

Sorry I haven't been here in a few days. My 2nd daughter was born Thursday night. Peace

 

[sandgk]

Back to the topic, I posed the scenario regarding our quarterbacks as they relate to a successful freshman like Chad Henne to ask, all other things equal, if a mid-season, 2004 Chad Henne were the quarterback entering the season for the 2006 Texas Longhorns, do you think our team would be deserving of a #1 ranking?

Ah, well when I misread something I'll admit it.

I had your post as using the example of Chad Henne in the month of September.

As I recall it, Chad had a great first outing in 2004. After a shaky first quarter against Miami he, with the help of that receiving corps led by Edwards, put a big 43-10 hurt on Miami of Ohio. Their season opener, and, I am sure a big confidence builder.

Then, in the very next game, high pressure as it was the seemingly annual tilt between sCUM and ND the Irish beat them 28-20. True, this was in South Bend. To strengthen the point I'm getting at consider this though. Notre Dame's high points of the season were that game and the on the road win in Knoxville. So, against an arguably lesser opponent, who was abominable in defending the pass that year as well as 2005, Henne couldn't get the win.

He sailed through the rest of the year, gaining in aplomb and experience. Till he was undone, against Ohio State, in the last game of the regular season in the Shoe - largely because of an heroic QB performance Vince Young would have been proud of. That was Troy's return to the big time, his Rose Bowl part 1 if you wish.

So yes, if Chad Henne mid-season from his Freshman year were to suit up in Orange, with great receiving at his disposal, that may indeed provide you with a different picture. Of course, whether it is Snead, McCoy or a Henne clone, it remains the 2nd game of the season - which even the Freshman phenom at sCUM lost, against vastly inferior competition to that which Ohio State will bring to Austin.

What Texas has this year in spades is what Ohio State had last year in spades - superb defense.

This, is going to be a very, very good game. Said it before, say it again one touchdown or less may separate the two teams at the end of the day.

 

[UTMNC]

Even the staunchest of tOSU fans should not have a quarrel with my post today. If you looked closely you had to of noticed at least one tOSU fan contradicted himself, which for they most part I left alone, You know as well as I do, if it had be me or any other horn fan, there would have been 5 pages of post declaring the fact, no big deal, but I will be happy to direct you to the post where even they realized what they had done, whatever, no big deal to me. Listen, I stated in my earlier post this am the chances of me being here very long decrease daily, but as long as Im here there is 0% chance anything disrespectful towards tOSU will come from me, but, but,for the small % who want to use 2nd grade name calling with every single post,,,, be ready for a reply.

I well aware that there are some who claim to be Horn fans, and while that may be true in part, IMO they are also closet Buckeye buddies, afraid to go anywhere near crossing the line, even when justified, for fear of being banned. Well don't confuse me with that group. I will let my enthusiasm and optimism for my team be made known with every post, and when I feel the need to push the envelope, you can be sure it will be pushed if I feel there is evidence to warrant it, if it's too far, tough s--t. One touch of the button by the moderator, and this board can spend this next 4 month's on this thread ALL happy in agreement with each other, with no fear of anything NEGATIVE being said , nothing that even smell's of controversial OPINIONS from the opposition. Sound's real exciting.

 

[sandgk]

Why am I seeing "this message is hidden" in some posts on this page?

 

[bukIpower]

Hey I've stated plenty of times that last year Texas got my respect when they beat the buckeyes at night in our house while I was at the game, I even became a fan through your run last year... So I dunno who you're talk'n about who has beef with your team... Texas will have a good defense but I don't know if I'd call it a superb defense though. Our defense?? Well who knows really? We have no way to really know? We have the potential to be good, and maybe if some bounces go our way we can jell quickly and be a great defense. With that being said we'll have our hands full on the 9th of september I think all us buckeye fans agree with that.. I don't expect a blowout as I don't know many fans who do. You might be correct in saying it could be a low scoring game. If it is a low scoring game I think the advantage would have to go to Texas. Yes we can score more points more easily this time around, but if they keep our offense in check they've already done half the battle in keeping our the game close for an inexperieneced QB who will most likely have difficulties. I'd like to see us jump on them quick. I'm hoping for a USC vs. Auburn type of game where USC came in and took the game from them from the beginning, but I doubt that happens haha....

 

[UTMNC]

My reference to Ginn and Gonzalez not being effective was in reference to the 2005 UT game, I could care less what they did against ANY other team. If Ginn and Gonzalez go off on Texas this year, I will be the first one to give them their props.

 

[jwinslow]

My reference to Ginn and Gonzalez not being effective was in reference to the 2005 UT game, I could care less what they did against ANY other team. If Ginn and Gonzalez go off on Texas this year, I will be the first one to give them their props.

yeah, I'm sure you bought the 'vy will suck in 05 against OU b/c of the 04 ou game' arguments

I guess I should adopt your thought process: "I could care less what JC did against ANY other team. Against OSU, he was very uptight for half of the game. I expect him to have confidence/mental issues again this year."

 

[bukIpower]

UTMNC- See thats jus the thing... you didn't follow Anthony/ Ted Ginn , matter of fact you didn't even follow our team last year. You don't know shit about our team so how can any of us take what you say seriously!? You can't back them up with who we lose and how our players performed because you DON'T know...only thing you know is Texas will never lose another game in history because of the endless supply of all americans you have. Its not much fun talking to a fan who can't have a discussion about a game because only reason they have for why their team could win is we beat you last year and we're the national champions because guess what in the past 5 years we've both won National Championships....Stop refuring to last year because it means NOTHING now... new year, new players, new results..