Game Thread Game Two: #1 Ohio State 24, #2 Texas 7 (9/9/06)

[BuckeyeNation27]

Just stating facts. Ted Ginn was a Heisman candidate last year, until after the Texas game. All I am saying is IMO, he is a candidate this year until after the Texas game. Troy Smith's tenure as a Heisman favorite may be short lived as well, IMO. In not one single post have I said ANYTHING disrespectful or derogatory about tOSU, in fact, I stated in my original post that IMO, I think tOSU might win this game in a LOW scoring contest that is sure to be a WAR. I have only stated IMO how each teams match up position by position. The ONLY COMMENT that comes close to crossing a line was directed at MililaniBuckeye who IMO deserved a response that corresponded to the remark made to myself and inVINCEable.

So Ginn played Heisman Quality football all year, except the Texas game which knocked him out of the race?

I'll give Texas all the credit that they deserve, but they aren't the ones who knocked Ginn out of the Heisman race.

 

[jwinslow]

Just stating facts. Ted Ginn was a Heisman candidate last year, until after the Texas game. All I am saying is IMO, he is a candidate this year until after the Texas game. Troy Smith's tenure as a Heisman favorite may be short lived as well, IMO. In not one single post have I said ANYTHING disrespectful or derogatory about tOSU, in fact, I stated in my original post that IMO, I think tOSU might win this game in a LOW scoring contest that is sure to be a WAR. I have only stated IMO how each teams match up position by position. The ONLY COMMENT that comes close to crossing a line was directed at MililaniBuckeye who IMO deserved a response that corresponded to the remark made to myself and inVINCEable.

no, but you continue to throw out remarkably homeristic posts... giving UT a huge advantage with newbies yet OSU is screwed b/c our newbies are nothing.

OSU is gonna suck b/c we lost Hamby, even tho it was quite evident during many games last year (including the Michigan game, which I guess you didn't watch) that Frost was an upgrade as the season progressed. Despite a strong showing from Frost, Nicol returns as the starter now that he is healthy. You lost Thomas, a much bigger loss than hamby, yet your freshman backup is gonna set the world on fire. Nope, nothing inconsistent there.

Care to respond to why your secondary got owned in the rose bowl? I realize that any great defense can have breakdowns, but to be talking about how all of our WRs will be owned two games after being torn apart... well forgive us if we don't bow before the feet of your secondary.

Even the fullback was going off in the rose bowl:

Southern California-Jarrett, Dwayne 10-121; Bush, Reggie 6-95;
Byrd, Dominique 4-32; Kirtman, David 3-61; Smith, Steve 3-29; Davis, Fred 2-19;
Hancock, B. 1-8.</pre>

 

[High Lonesome]

So Ginn played Heisman Quality football all year, except the Texas game which knocked him out of the race?

I'll give Texas all the credit that they deserve, but they aren't the ones who knocked Ginn out of the Heisman race.

Really? I would say that is exactly what they did, at least as much as any one game in the begining of the season can. Talks of Ted Ginn for Heisman virtually stopped after the Texas game.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Really? I would say that is exactly what they did, at least as much as any one game in the begining of the season can. Talks of Ted Ginn for Heisman virtually stopped after the Texas game.

Because he didn't play Heisman Quality football all season. It's like saying Notre Ame shut down Tyler Palko's Heisman bid. He just didn't play Heisman Quality football last year.....had nothing to do with NA.

 

[BuckeyeRob]

With only two WR , actually only one because Ginn will be shut down again, you better make TE a little higher priority.

Yeah, right....

Rory Nicol is a Redshirt Sophmore came in out of PA and was rated the #4 TE prospect in the country. He is 6'5 250 and runs a 4.7 40. Not blazing speed but not slow for a TE either. Frankly, I think the guy that may cause the most trouble may well be Roy Hall. Roy is a 5th year senior at 6 3 240 lbs and runs about a 4.45 40 he is a load he will see a lot of time in formations that OSU will run in 3 and 4 wide reciever sets. Roy has been stuck behind some phenominal recivers (all who are currently on NFL rosters) he was a top 100 prospect and has contributed every season except his true freshman season.

OSU is has flat out sick levels of talent at the wide reciever.... you are certainly entitled to your opinion but I am supremely confident that the Texas defensive coaching staff does not even remotely share your view on the OSU wide recieving corps.

 

[UTMNC]

And that is exactly how I said tOSU might win the game, that being 3 yards a play, pounding away, which is OK providing that the MAJORITY of those drives are of the 70-80 yrd variety. And that IF tOSU has the ball late in the fourth QTR, a tired UT defense may be in troulble. The post I have responded to are the one's in which in tOSU opinion, they will score over 30 points.

 

[3yardsandacloud]

Just stating facts ... All I am saying is IMO ...

First, let's try differentiating between "fact" and "opinion".

Secondly, I assume that stating we only have 2 WRs and one will not be a factor is trolling. Or possibly that you haven't taken the time to actually look into our situation at wide receiver. In fact, the 2 receivers you reference are listed as FL and SE on the OSU depth chart ... not WR. Minor detail to be sure, but it shows me you are just making comments to elicit a response that isn't focused on football but trolling. If you want to talk football, then let's talk. If you want to talk smack, this isn't the place. Get a few more good posts under your belt and you'll be given more leeway. Keep vacilating between football chatter and trolling and you won't be here come August.

 

[BuckeyeRob]

Just stating facts. Ted Ginn was a Heisman candidate last year, until after the Texas game. All I am saying is IMO, he is a candidate this year until after the Texas game. Troy Smith's tenure as a Heisman favorite may be short lived as well, IMO. In not one single post have I said ANYTHING disrespectful or derogatory about tOSU, in fact, I stated in my original post that IMO, I think tOSU might win this game in a LOW scoring contest that is sure to be a WAR. I have only stated IMO how each teams match up position by position. The ONLY COMMENT that comes close to crossing a line was directed at MililaniBuckeye who IMO deserved a response that corresponded to the remark made to myself and inVINCEable.

Im starting to think this may be a high scoring game. Everyone seems to think it will be a low scoring affair but Im not so sure. For all the smack "some" Texas fans have been running, they seem to be oblivious that the Texas defense got LITE UP by USC. USC rumbled for 209 rushing yards and Matt Leinart scorched the Texas defense completing 72% of his passes for 365 yards.

The more I think about how good the OSU offense is likely to be, the more Im starting to think that OSU will stun the texas fans. Im absolutely convinced that you really believe there is little difference between what you saw out of Troy and the offense in September and the one that set a school record for most yards allowed, by Notre Dame.

Think about that for a second.... USC rolled up 476 total yards and the buckeyes put up an additional 141 total yards. Both games were played in the latter half of the season. Heck Weiss had more than a MONTH to prepare his game plan AND it was at a nuetral site.

If Troy is "on" that night it wont matter how good your defense is. The offense will get its points. And god help Texas if the OSU defense can get to and force your young qb's into mistakes.

OSU 30
Texas 21

 

[Steve19]

Really? I would say that is exactly what they did, at least as much as any one game in the begining of the season can. Talks of Ted Ginn for Heisman virtually stopped after the Texas game.

It's not clear what happened to Teddy Ginn last year, but the real deal showed up for TSUN and Notre Dame. He's running his routes better and he still has that speed. Last year, early in the season, he seemed to think he could rely solely on his speed. In the time since, he has developed his craft a lot more. I think he may be a lot harder to shut down this year.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

It's not clear what happened to Teddy Ginn last year, but the real deal showed up for TSUN and Notre Dame. He's running his routes better and he still has that speed. Last year, early in the season, he seemed to think he could rely solely on his speed. In the time since, he has developed his craft a lot more. I think he may be a lot harder to shut down this year.

psst....TG2 wasn't all that spectacular on special teams against scum

 

[High Lonesome]

Because he didn't play Heisman Quality football all season. It's like saying Notre Ame shut down Tyler Palko's Heisman bid. He just didn't play Heisman Quality football last year.....had nothing to do with NA.

I do not disagree with the fact that Ginn didn't have that great of a season, but there is no denying that he was infact a highly thought of heisman contender before the texas game and that talk stopped after that game.

they seem to be oblivious that the Texas defense got LITE UP by USC. USC rumbled for 209 rushing yards and Matt Leinart scorched the Texas defense completing 72% of his passes for 365 yards.

The next time tOSU plans on fielding arguably the greatest offense in college football history, let me know.

 

[UTMNC]

I don't think I would be in the minority saying last years USC offense was one of the BEST offenses in the history of college football, USC would have done the same thing to tOSU defense. I don't see any smack being thrown around here. What I do detect is whenever a Texas fan makes a argument about the breakdown of position by position, if we, In our opinion feel a UT player is better, has a edge, whatever you want to call it, and list at least some facts, we are called morons and the like. Example: IMO, Ted Ginn lost much credibility from HEISMAN VOTERS after last years game. IMO, that is just plain cold facts. Is that smack talk, IMO NO.

 

[Tlangs]

psst....TG2 wasn't all that spectacular on special teams against scum

Don't remind me, I still have nightmares about his dropped punts. In my opinion, Teddy isn't a Heisman candidate.

1.If he has a ton of receiving yards, Troy will be the frontrunner between the two.

2. I don't see Teddy getting too many carries with the stable of running backs we have.

3. He has been a slow starter each of the last 2 years. You can't be a slow starter and win the Hesiman. Once your name falls off that list, it is hard to get back on.

4. I think Texas is going to do everything they can to prevent a replay of Teddy's performance against Notre Dame. They have the secondary to take someone out of a game. The problem is can they take out Teddy and still stop Troy, Pittman/Wells/Wells, Gonzalez?

4.The only thing that can swing it in Teddy's favor is if he has a ton of return touchdowns. Of course he has to catch the punt first :(

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

I do not disagree with the fact that Ginn didn't have that great of a season, but there is no denying that he was infact a highly thought of heisman contender before the texas game and that talk stopped after that game.



The next time tOSU plans on fielding arguably the greatest offense in college football history, let me know.

you're arguing semantics, just like the dropped pass/pass break up. yes the talk stopped after the texas game.....but as the season went on it's clear that he should never have been a Heisman candidate. it's not that Texas just bottled him up for 1 game and that knocked him out of the race completely.

 

[Tlangs]

I don't think I would be in the minority saying last years USC offense was one of the BEST offenses in the history of college football, USC would have done the same thing to tOSU defense.

You probably said the same thing in 2002 about the vonted Miami Offense (24 points including 2 overtimes) and there 34 game win streak. Tressel's specialty in his tenure at OSU has been defense. His defenses have always been a step ahead of the other team.