Game Thread Game One: Ohio State 38, Youngstown St. 6 (final)

[tresselballer]

not trying to come off as a cock

too late. The smilie is a cock move.

I really don't give a shit what the consensus is. Nothing against you guys, but I believe what I believe. When you play a school like this, you either score 60, or make it very evident that you could have scored 100.

People aren't going to care that YSU is a King Don. All they know is that we've finally stooped to playing a 1-AA school (even though everybody else is doing it). So ring it up, I say.

 

[penguinpower]

...in a driving rain storm. I'm sure that had some effect on the PSU offense.

I was there, wasn't a driving rain storm........actually a cool and sunny day.

The student section was getting impatient because they expected a blow out early.........Joe Paterno liked the level of competition that we brought and has asked YSU to reschedule in 2009 or 2010. (when thay have an opening.)

 

[Yertle]

Wow! 66 points? In other words, you are predicting more points by the Bucks than in ANY OTHER GAME coached by Jim Tressel? This game will be his record at tOSU?

Hmmmm.... doubt it.

There's two approaches to this game:

1. Look at the AA next to the YSU opponent and predict that the Buckeye football juggarnaut will roll for 60 minutes, no matter which string is in the game. The outcome will be disappointment. Trust me. Look at the early season OOC games against small Ohio schools. It's always more of a fight than it should be.
2. Look at the inexperience of the Buckeye O (I don't care who won the scrimmage, the O is not going to be a powerhouse early in the year) and the fact that YSU is the fifth best I-AA school and probably in the top 3 or 4 in the state of any division. Plus, JT rarely runs the score up, and NEVER on a in-state school. The outcome of this approach will be acceptance of a game that will be closer than it should be.

Bottom line, Buckeyes win by around 20. I'd say something like 34-13.

 

[BrutusMaximus]

Ok so I have been searching, but with no much luck. Any solution to the TV problem? I guess without the Big 10 network, we are screwed?

 

[suza271]

Brutus--

You might want to check out the Big 10 Network Thread in this forum.

Answer would be... Direct TV and AT&T are the only providers picking up the network as of today. Comcast is def. not. I believe someone said the first two games are going to be televised until Time Warner comes up with a solution, but thats only in C-Town.

 

[BrutusMaximus]

Yeah I had read that, just wasnt sure if anything had changed. I requested that day off too, and now it looks like I wont get to see the game :(

 

[ytownbuckeye]

i'm claiming shutout. ysu will not score unless it is some fluke play. our defense is awesome and ysu won't sustain a drive. we may not hang 70 on them but they're not scoring anyway. how's their kicker? maybe a long field goal?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

...in a driving rain storm. I'm sure that had some effect on the PSU offense.

Uh, I think you're getting your PSU games mixed up...we played PSU in heavy rain, but it didn't rain at YSU/PSU.

 

[tresselballer]

Bottom line, Buckeyes win by around 20. I'd say something like 34-13.

Thanks for not calling me an idiot, yertle. Some fucksticks can't seem to stifle the urge.

I think they'll ring up some points because they won't be able to help themselves; kick return TDs, punt return TDs, short field after turnovers/big returns...I don't think people are factoring in the huge advantage we should be getting in field position. And like somebody else said earlier, it's not like Brandon Saine (or whoever) is going to run out of bounds to avoid scoring.

But there's one thing for sure: YSU will play their ass off.

 

[Bleed S & G]

In last years opener we scored on our first four possessions to lead 28-0.

NIU outscored us the rest of the way 12-7.

Although YSU will have a harder time keeping us out of the end zone even with our 2's, look for something matching that basic blue print.

Boom Herron behind Boone and Barton will roll up some yards. Behind Moses and Slagle - not so much.

Exactly. Plus, last year our first string offense was a machine, and this year they are a question mark. We know we can pound it out, but our passing game remains to be seen.

Is Moses second string?

too late. The smilie is a cock move.

what that smiley? ..dont be so touchy i actually did laugh when i read your post.. i tried to make it clear i wasnt making the face to be a dick.. but whatever, on to your post..

When you play a school like this, you either score 60, or make it very evident that you could have scored 100.

When did Pete Carroll take over at Ohio State?

What do you mean "school like this".. go read the thread.. they are just as good as the MAC teams we play year in & out..

People aren't going to care that YSU is a King Don.

i thought you didn't "give a shit" about the consensus..

All they know is that we've finally stooped to playing a 1-AA school (even though everybody else is doing it). So ring it up, I say.

dude, we're playing a school that purposely schedules games around Ohio States.. why would you want to "ring it up" on a brother.. im all for kicking some ass too, dont get me wrong.. but c'mon no reason to murder a brother when you can beat them soundly.. now if the third string is scoring at will, so be it but i see no reason to go for the throat. lets keep the offense simple and keep everything off of game film, and let the boys play.

you avoided the problems i posed with what you "believe".. if you believed the world was flat, i would tell you why i think you're not right.

the only thing you addressed was "consensus".. lets touch on the other problems with us hanging 60 points.. so allow me to quote my post..

Would you say we would hang 60 on akron or northwestern? i don't think so..last year we didnt even do that with Troy, Teddy, Gonzo, and Pittman.

You're telling me this offense, one of the best in recent memory, couldn't come close to 60 against NIU.. but the brand new offense will have no problems??

JT will pull the first team before we are up 38-0.. more like 28-0 or at the most 35-0 he will pull the first string.

Where you and Petey would "ring it up" i highly, highly doubt Tressel would do something to his former team.. especially considering the positive message JT preaches to his players

Once again, if the third stringers are scoring at will.. nothing you can do, but tressel won't leave his 1st string in there when its not needed.. it's a stupid risk to have beanie wells running the ball when the games in hand.. risk the whole season to beat this 'lowly I AA team' .. JTs a little sharper than that, i hope.

But anyways, i cant see our offense scoring that much.. its the first game of the year, playbook will be kept closed, and JT is seeing how this offense gels in game time situations.

JTs offenses get better and more dynamic as the year goes on, not right out of the schutes.. no reason to show any of our cards in this game.

Plain and simple. IMO.

EDIT:

Thanks for not calling me an idiot, yertle. Some fucksticks can't seem to stifle the urge.

Looks like you're the one who's name calling..

 

[tresselballer]

i thought you didn't "give a shit" about the consensus..

I don't. But unfortunately, there's a couple polls that determine our fate, and those are the consensus. The SIDs and media wonks that fill out these ballots look at what the final scores are and not what the games dictate. If the game is played in a meteor shower, they'll have no idea; they just see that Ohio State only won by 20 against a 1-AA team. The ones that do look beyond the box score are few and far between.

That's why you have to ring it up. But, IMO, we'll score enough to avoid that.

lets keep the offense simple and keep everything off of game film, and let the boys play.

I'm saying that'll be enough. It's not like we'll need to air it out to build a big lead. I think the differences in personnel, especially up front and on special teams, are going to be waaay too much for YSU to handle.

you avoided the problems i posed with what you "believe".. if you believed the world was flat, i would tell you why i think you're not right.

lol...I don't need to avoid the problems you pose. If I remember correctly, the guy who said the world was round was in the minority. I'm not getting upset with what you believe. What you believe is fine. Your points are valid- duly noted. I still think we should either score 60 or make it very evident that we could have scored 100. The fact that it's Tress' former school may (and to most, probably should) prevent that; I'm not arguing that.

You're telling me this offense, one of the best in recent memory, couldn't come close to 60 against NIU.. but the brand new offense will have no problems??

How many 1-A athletes would you say NIU has on their roster? Now compare that with YSU. Like I said before, the beasts that we have on the lines simply don't wind up at 1-AA schools, whether it's YSU or not, very often. A Larry Allen is the exception rather then the rule.

Same thing goes with the coverage teams...where we just kill a team like Indiana is on special teams, where we not only have a returner, year in and year out, who'd likely be the fastest player on their team, but we have ten other guys that would start on either offense or defense matching up against a good portion of their reserves.

Where you and Petey would "ring it up" i highly, highly doubt Tressel would do something to his former team

I guess I'm fine with being mentioned with Pete Carroll. Throw Spurrier in there, too. While SOS ran scores up because of his philosophy (basically, they should worry about stopping us), I think Carroll has the same problem we have- the players are on a different level and can't help but score. Like I said, I don't doubt that Tress will call the dogs off, but unfortunately, that's not a stat that voters are going to see. We beat Minnesota 44-0 last year, and it looked pretty effortless; we weren't out there running flea-flickers.

it's a stupid risk to have beanie wells running the ball when the games in hand.. risk the whole season to beat this 'lowly I AA team' .. JTs a little sharper than that, i hope.

I don't know about Brandon Saine (whether or not he'll redshirt or even live up to the hype), but Maurice Wells is enough to rock their world behind a mix of our first- and second-team OL. That's the unit that'll likely be out there when Beanie comes out.

Plain and simple. IMO.

Couldn't agree more. Our bread and butter is going to do YSU like the 'Gluttony' guy in Se7en. A screen pass will probably be the height of our trickeration.

Looks like you're the one who's name calling..

I've never seen a site where it's so acceptable to excoriate somebody with a different opinion. Where I'm from, a mods bounce your your ass yesterday for calling somebody an idiot, especially a new person who isn't just like, "OMGzoRZZZ, YSU teh suXxx!!11!!" The mods did step in, but I've seen it in other threads, too. As long as I'm allowed to fight fire with fire, it's cool, but I'll never start a name-calling session. I end 'em. ;^)

Odds are, if you're a fuckstick, you don't need me to tell you, anyway.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

tresselballer, you couldn't have picked a more ironic moniker...

 

[tresselballer]

tresselballer, you couldn't have picked a more ironic moniker...

I know it looks that way. I'm all about Tresselball, though, believe it or not. No mistakes from the QB, sound in the running game, let the defense and special teams win your games. Love it. I just happen to think Tresselball will still be a bit much for the 'Guins. It'll take Tressel trying not to score to keep it 'respectful'. lol...that's probably his gameplan.

I'm also not as pious as Tressel probably is.

 

[tresselballer]

BTW, we beat San Jose State in '02, 50-7, without batting an eyelash. In '03 and '04, with two offenses that couldn't run a fever, we smashed Indiana up by 29 and 23, respectively. It's not inconceivable that we might win by 50+ points, guys.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

BTW, we beat San Jose State in '02, 50-7, without batting an eyelash. In '03 and '04, with two offenses that couldn't run a fever, we smashed Indiana up by 29 and 23, respectively. It's not inconceivable that we might win by 50+ points, guys.

SDSU scored first on us, and IIRC we weren't winning by all that much at halftime. Also, SDSU imploded by turning the ball over on five straight possession which was the big factor in our blowing it open in the second half. The Aztecs were actually moving the ball quite well, yet kept shooting themselves in the foot with turnovers, so Tressel kept the first teamers in a lot longer than he will against YSU...