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Game Thread Game One: Ohio State 38, Youngstown St. 6 (final)

He was referring to the San Jose State game in 2002. I remember it well, as it was my only trip inside the 'Shoe that year, and also I believe it was the only extra point that Nuge missed all year. SDSU scored the first TD of the game when we played them in 2005 after the Texas loss.
 
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I'm not saying the Bucks CAN'T win by 50+, but here's some reasons why they WON'T win by 50+:

1. It's too early in the season. The offense always struggles early on. Look at 2002 (WSU and Cincy), 2003 (SDS, BGSU), 2004 (NC State, Marshall), 2005 (SDS), and 2006 (Cincy). All of these seasons had early games with sluggish offenses. Could be that the team doesn't gel for a few games, could be that Tressel leaves some secrets in the bag... I don't know. I just know the offense is vanilla and under produces to my expectations.

2. The three QB rotation will take away from any serious offensive momentum. Can't win by 50 when the offense is constantly adjusting to a new signal caller.

3. How many first year starters does this offense have??? EVERY skill position??? Oh wait, not tight end. I don't care how good Nicol and Ballard are, a veteran tight end is not the glue that holds an offensive powerhouse together from one season to the next.

4. YSU is JT's second favorite team in the world. He won't put the screws to them. Not a chance. Basically, I can 100% guarantee you that we won't hear any comments like "because I couldn't go for three" after this one.

5. Jim Tressel has NEVER... I repeat... NEVER won by 50. Ever. Ever ever ever. It's a bold statement to bet that this is the game that he'll pop his "blow-out" cherry.
 
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tresselballer;906893; said:
I've never seen a site where it's so acceptable to excoriate somebody with a different opinion. Where I'm from, a mods bounce your your ass yesterday for calling somebody an idiot, especially a new person who isn't just like, "OMGzoRZZZ, YSU teh suXxx!!11!!" The mods did step in, but I've seen it in other threads, too. As long as I'm allowed to fight fire with fire, it's cool, but I'll never start a name-calling session. I end 'em. ;^)

Odds are, if you're a fuckstick, you don't need me to tell you, anyway. :biggrin:

You are responsible for your own words here...however, there is a major difference between an aggressive debate and flatout namecalling. One is simply poor taste while the other is breaking forum rules.

A few of you are toeing that line. Clean it up...yesterday.

Grazie.
 
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DDN

Penguins' Zetts anticipates loud Ohio Stadium crowd

Close proximity of Youngstown and Columbus will make interesting fanbase at Sept. 1 matchup.

By Kyle Nagel
Staff Writer

Monday, August 20, 2007
Even though he grew up in Youngstown, Tom Zetts never got to follow the group of Ohio State fans to Columbus for Buckeyes football games. He's actually never been inside Ohio Stadium.
"People tell me it's loud," said Zetts, the senior Youngstown State quarterback.


Zetts and his teammates, many of whom might have grown up rooting for the Buckeyes, will discover life inside Ohio Stadium in less than two weeks when the Penguins travel to Columbus and open their season against Ohio State on Sept. 1.






Cont..
 
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the point spread with which we win the game is far less important to how well ysu finishes out their season. if they win their conference we get kudos. if we win by 80 billiontrillionmilliongazillion and they are a flop, we get nothing.
 
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martinss01;907061; said:
the point spread with which we win the game is far less important to how well ysu finishes out their season. if they win their conference we get kudos. if we win by 80 billiontrillionmilliongazillion and they are a flop, we get nothing.

This is probably true w.r.t. how we on this board will discuss Game 1 in retrospect.

But the college football world at large will not give us kudos for this game under any circumstances whatsoever.

If they give OSU a tight game, OSU will be criticized. If YSU goes on to have a crappy season, people will dredge up the close score in early September to criticize us further. If YSU goes on to win the I-AA title, the September 1st game will not be mentioned one way or the other.

This has nothing to do with bias, it has nothing to do with Ohio State. It is just how the story is played when you are Goliath and you play David.

As many have already stated, this is about:
  1. Keeping the money in O-H-I-O
  2. Giving a profile/financial boost to a school where JT spent 15 years
Tressel thinks that those two factors make it worth dealing with the David-vs.-Goliath rulebook (lose-lose situation for OSU, reputation-wise).

At the end-of-the-season though, if OSU goes undefeated; the truth is, we won't care what happened against YSU or Kent or Akron. If they go undefeated, whatever happens in this game will not keep them out of the BCS.

But bring it on anyway. It's football. It's the Buckeyes. It's Life.
 
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Yertle;906577; said:
...JT rarely runs the score up, and NEVER on a in-state school.
I guess that depends on what you consider to be running up the score. Remember when OSU beat Kent St. 51-17 in '02? Sure, some of those points came off of turnovers, but that's usually the case in very lopsided games. And that goes to the point: even if it's true that Tressel actively wants to avoid laying a shellacking on YSU, there's only so much he can do to prevent it. He's not going to tell his third stringers to stop trying. If the Penguins are unable to slow the down the Buckeye second or third-string offense, and if the Penguin offense isn't able to avoid turnovers, both of which were at least partially true of Kent State, then they will get waxed. Badly. Regardless of Jim Tressel's tenderness for Youngstown.
 
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schwab;906912; said:
He was referring to the San Jose State game in 2002. I remember it well, as it was my only trip inside the 'Shoe that year, and also I believe it was the only extra point that Nuge missed all year. SDSU scored the first TD of the game when we played them in 2005 after the Texas loss.

I mistyped when I typed SDSU instead of SJSU, and stand corrected about San Jose scoring first, but they did score early in the 2nd qtr to tie the game at 7-7, with the halftime score being 24-7...it took us a while to get revved up, and SJSU did indeed turn the ball a lot (four times vice the five times I originally thought).
 
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zincfinger;907257; said:

Clarett scored on a 7-yard pass from Krenzel, Mike Nugent kicked the first of his three field goals and Hawke brought another pass by Cribbs back 34 yards for a touchdown to make it 38-0.

"It hasn't sunk in yet," Hawke said. "It happened so fast. I was surprised it came right to me."

Who's this Hawke guy? :biggrin:
 
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MililaniBuckeye;907270; said:
Who's this Hawke guy? :biggrin:
Just some no-name freshman who probably never amounted to much.

OH8ch said:
Much better in Gattaca than he ever will be as a linebacker.
Probably true, but it was touching when, at the end of the '03 Fiesta Bowl, Hawke stood up on the Buckeye bench, faced Mike Doss, and said "Oh Captain, my Captain."
 
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I guess what I meant by running the score up is keeping the thottle down with the first team in the game. I'm completely in favor of putting in the second/third string and letting them continue with an aggressive gameplan (and I think JT does this quite well). But, he will get backups in the game at a lower point differential than... let's say.... Spurrier.
 
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Yertle;907392; said:
I guess what I meant by running the score up is keeping the thottle down with the first team in the game. I'm completely in favor of putting in the second/third string and letting them continue with an aggressive gameplan (and I think JT does this quite well). But, he will get backups in the game at a lower point differential than... let's say.... Spurrier.
If I remember correctly your backups didn't come in until about halfway through the 4th in our game last when. When Wolfe scored are one and only TD with about 12 minutes left in the 4th, the first string D was still in, and I don't remember Zwick coming in until the middle of a drive with about 6-7 minutes left in the game.

What that has to do with this game? I have no idea, but I thought I would add that in.
 
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Yertle;907392; said:
I guess what I meant by running the score up is keeping the thottle down with the first team in the game....[Tressel] will get backups in the game at a lower point differential than... let's say.... Spurrier.
I'm not sure what you mean by "keeping the throttle down". Do you think that when the game's within a couple of scores and the first-team offense is in, that Tressel won't have them trying their damnedest to score touchdowns? Of course they won't have the same sense of urgency as they would if the opponent were Michigan, but they will be trying to get into the endzone by means of their normal offensive approach. As far as the comparison to Spurrier, your point's probably true, but Spurrier is known as an outlier in terms of actively trying to lay huge, lopsided scores on inferior opponents - which is of course why you chose him as your example. Tressel, like most elite-program coaches when facing inferior opponents, gets the game well in hand with a three-to-four-score lead, and then inserts the back-ups (depending somewhat on time remaining, and bearing in mind that occasionally the "inferior" opponent puts up a serious fight).

G-FORCE;907552; said:
If I remember correctly your backups didn't come in until about halfway through the 4th in our game last [year]. When Wolfe scored [our] one and only TD with about 12 minutes left in the 4th, the first string D was still in, and I don't remember Zwick coming in until the middle of a drive with about 6-7 minutes left in the game.
That partially goes to the parenthetical point above. NIU is generally a superior team to YSU, and the Huskies are not a mid-major team that the high majors can routinely steamroll from the outset and then go into practice mode. Even though the outcome of the game was never seriously in doubt, the Bucks needed to play the starters for the majority of the game in order to maintain the clear upper-hand. If OSU's first-string had simply blown NIU out of the water on both sides of the ball from the outset, and established a four touchdown lead early in the third period, the subs would have come in en masse. But NIU was good enough to prevent that from being the case. Will YSU be good enough to prevent that from being the case? It's possible, but I'd tend to doubt it.
 
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