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Game Thread Game Five: Penn State 17, Ohio State 10 (Final)

Craig is right on the money. All week long doing new links I've been surprised at the attitude from across the border. They've had MUCH more media coverage. Kids camping out at the stadium since Sunday. Cancelling recruit visits, etc., etc.

I can kind of symapathize. After several really down years they have a chance to return to prominence. Sad really. #18 playing #6 and you'd think they've never played a top 10 team before. Seems kind of routine to us. This is their whole season. I'm somewhat torn. I feel for the PSU fans who want to cheer for a team that is relavent again. You can tell they want it bad. They need a return to glory. I also think a win by the Bucks might just crush them beyond repair. Could end JoePa's career after this season.

They said on ESPiN halftime show yesterday, that if they win, they are going to bring back a tradition of tearing down a goalpost and taking it down their main strip. The guy with May, said a great line..... "Why?? Act like youve been here before!"
 
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May has been a lot more bearable recently... maybe stupidity by association is wearing off now that Trev is gone. Not saying he's good, but he's a lot less hateable lately.
 
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May has been a lot more bearable recently... maybe stupidity by association is wearing off now that Trev is gone. Not saying he's good, but he's a lot less hateable lately.

Maybe someone at ESPiN told him to coll it a little...or maybe it's because for the last month, every time he's taken a shot at a team, someone (usually Holtz) reminds him of how bad his Pitt "They're going to win the Big East" Panthers suck ass.
 
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The signs of a big game have finally returned to Happy Valley. Actually, they have exploded. Just check out the behavior of Joe Paterno this week. The legendary coach cut off media contact for all of his players on Tuesday. He and his staff also cancelled all official visits on what was shaping up to be a huge recruiting weekend.

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</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>Penn State's Michael Robinson will be looking to make up for his poor performance against Ohio State last season on Saturday when the two teams meet in Beaver Stadium.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- End Image-->There is more proof on the edges of Beaver Stadium, where dozens of students are living in tents. The growing crowd has been dubbed Paternoville.

It's all part of Ohio State week in State College, combined with Penn State's resurgence back into the national spotlight. After enduring back-to-back losing seasons and constant questions about when Joe Pa would step down, the No. 16 Nittany Lions are off to their first 5-0 start in six years and get a visit from the No. 6 Buckeyes (4-0, 1-0 Big Ten) on Saturday night in Rivals.com's Game of the Week.

The tradition-rich programs are loaded with similarities this season. Both teams enter the Big Ten showdown coming off impressive league wins. The Nittany Lions clobbered then-No. 18 Minnesota 44-14 last week and the Buckeyes crushed then-No. 21 Iowa 31-6 two weeks ago. The Buckeyes did not play last week.

Both teams also are built around dominating defenses. The Nittany Lions were the only Division I-A team not to give up more than 21 points in a single game last season and returned the bulk of a veteran laden defense. Led by underrated linebacker Paul Posluszny and corner Alan Zemaitis, the Nittany Lions shut down the nation's leading rusher, Minnesota's Laurence Maroney, who picked up just 48 rushing yards.

Ohio State's run defense may be even better. The Buckeyes are giving up just 41.1 yards a game on the ground, 10 yards less than the next-closest team in the nation. The Buckeyes feature what many consider the nation's top linebacking corps in Bobby Carpenter, A.J. Hawk and Anthony Schlegel.

Both teams also start extremely athletic quarterbacks who are big running threats. Troy Smith, who was suspended for the Buckeyes' 34-14 win against Miami (Ohio) in their season opener, is averaging 5.4 yards per carry and has rushed for four touchdowns. Michael Robinson, who has played a handful of positions, is averaging 4.8 yards an attempt and has also scored four times on the ground. Robinson played horribly in Penn State's 21-10 loss at Ohio State last season, firing two interceptions, including one that was returned for a touchdown, and going just 7-of-21 for 69 yards.

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</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>Santonio Holmes leads Ohio State with 18 receptions this season.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- End Image-->There is one striking difference. Penn State has been able to get the ball into the hands of its top playmakers, one of the main reasons behind its success. Highly touted true freshmen Derrick Williams and Justin King and redshirt freshman Deon Butler have combined for 35 catches for 641 yards (18.3 yards per catch) and six touchdowns and also racked up 211 rushing yards on 22 carries (9.6 yards per carry) and two more scores. Williams, who was Rivals.com's No. 1 recruit from the class of 2005, has lined up all over the field and has led a transformation of the Nittany Lion offense, which now uses reverses and screen passes a great deal.

The Buckeyes have struggled to get star receivers Santonio Holmes and Ted Ginn Jr. involved. Ginn, who started the season as a Heisman candidate, has touched the ball just 18 times on offense, making 13 catches for 152 yards and a touchdown and five carries for 2 yards. Ginn's magic on special teams has also been absent. He returned four punts for touchdowns in 2004, including a 67-yarder against the Nittany Lions. But, he hasn't come close to taking any of the eight punts he has caught this season to the end zone.

Offensive edge: Ohio State was penciled in as a lock here at the start of the season, but Penn State gets the slight nod now. The concerns about Robinson's consistency and decision making are still there, but the Nittany Lions have developed a handful of scary weapons, including underrated running back Tony Hunt, who is averaging 6.8 yards per carry.

Defensive edge: The front sevens are similar, but the Buckeyes clearly have a better secondary. Nate Salley and Donte Whitner make up the top safety duo in the Big Ten and cornerback Ashton Youboty has the ability to be a major playmaker. Plus, the Buckeyes have already faced one of the best running quarterbacks ever in Texas' Vince Young.

Special teams edge: Ohio State. Yes, Ginn has been kept quiet on kick returns so far this season, but just about any coach in the nation would still trade his current punt returner for him. He still ranks among the most dangerous players in the nation and could be the difference in a game that is shaping up as a defensive battle.

Coaching edge: Tough call here, but we'll go with Jim Tressel, who has proven to make good decision in the final minutes of tight games. Joe Pa may have 300-plus wins, but it's been a long time since he has won a game that really mattered.

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</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle>Penn State running back Tony Hunt will face the nation's best rush defense on Saturday against Ohio State.</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- End Image-->Ohio State player to watch: Antonio Pittman spent the early part of the season being criticized for his lack of production. But he showed that he might be the workhorse in the backfield that Tressel has been searching for when he ran for 171 yards on 28 carries against a solid Iowa defense. If he can repeat that performance, the Buckeyes will roll to an easy win.

Penn State player to watch: The Buckeyes will likely stay away from Zemaitis and that means trying to take advantage of cornerback Anwar Phillips. That move could be a mistake. A fifth-year senior, Phillips has made nearly 20 starts and had four interceptions last season.

Ohio State will win if … Pittman runs for 100 yards or the defense holds Penn State to less than 100 rushing yards.

Penn State will win if … Robinson plays the best game of his career and the defense forces at least one key turnover.

X-Factor: The Penn State crowd. The Buckeyes have struggled on the road under Tressel and he won't be met by the semi-polite group that normally fills the 107,282 seats at Beaver Stadium. Penn State students have been waiting for a game like this for a long time and with a 7:45 p.m. kickoff they will have way too much time to get ready.

Noteworthy: Ohio State has lost its last three night games and is 1-3 after bye weeks under Tressel … Penn State was expecting official visits from a trio of Florida prospects, including four-star cornerback Jacques Rickerson, three-star linebacker Colin McCarthy and three-star running back Brandon James … Penn State has played 21 true and redshirt freshmen … ESPN's Gameday crew will be televising live on Penn State's campus Saturday for the first time since 1999 … The all-time series between the schools is tied 10-10.

Prediction: Ohio State 27, Penn State 13


The guy obviously hasn't seen Ohio State football this year if the thinks we haven't gotten the ball into Santonio Holmes hands, Ted Ginn Jr. hasn't come close to returning a punt for at TD, we are 4-0, Penn State has more weapons on offense than we do, and our front seven is similar to theirs.
 
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I can kind of symapathize. After several really down years they have a chance to return to prominence. Sad really. #18 playing #6 and you'd think they've never played a top 10 team before. Seems kind of routine to us. This is their whole season. I'm somewhat torn. I feel for the PSU fans who want to cheer for a team that is relavent again. You can tell they want it bad. They need a return to glory. I also think a win by the Bucks might just crush them beyond repair. Could end JoePa's career after this season.

I feel nothing for Penn State or their fans. I'll never forget the 63-14 ape-rape job they gave us in '94...there was no excuse for JoePa allowing it to get ot of hand like that. Karma's a mother fucker. They're lucky Tressel never runs up the score.

I want to beat their collective asses bad tomorrow and keep them down in the middle of the conference where they fucking belong.
 
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I feel nothing for Penn State or their fans. I'll never forget the 63-14 ape-rape job they gave us in '94...there was no excuse for JoePa allowing it to get ot of hand like that. Karma's a mother fucker. They're lucky Tressel never runs up the score.

I want to beat their collective asses bad tomorrow and keep them down in the middle of the conference where they fucking belong.
I totally agree ...And unless Robinson plays better than Vince Young did..I'll think it will be a 10pt+ win.
 
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I feel nothing for Penn State or their fans. I'll never forget the 63-14 ape-rape job they gave us in '94...there was no excuse for JoePa allowing it to get ot of hand like that. Karma's a mother fucker. They're lucky Tressel never runs up the score.

I want to beat their collective asses bad tomorrow and keep them down in the middle of the conference where they fucking belong.

AMEN!!!!!!! KILL KILL KILL !!!!!!! :mad1:
 
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I feel nothing for Penn State or their fans. I'll never forget the 63-14 ape-rape job they gave us in '94...there was no excuse for JoePa allowing it to get ot of hand like that. Karma's a mother fucker. They're lucky Tressel never runs up the score.

I want to beat their collective asses bad tomorrow and keep them down in the middle of the conference where they fucking belong.


:lol: I guess I know where you stand Mili (not that I had a question about where you stood). I have some "in-law" relatives from PA, so I completely understand the "bad" PSU fans that folks are talking about. I understand payback for the 94 game. The point I'm making is how bad things must be for PSU fans. I'm shocked at how BIG they're trying to make this game. Christ, do you think their fans from the 80s would be making such a fuss? Hell no. They'd be waiting until the end of the season to decide if they had a great year. In all honesty, their fans, media and coach are hyping this even more that we did with OSU/Texas. I can't really understand that. The hype surrounding OSU vs Texas (#4 vs #2 OOC) was ridiculous ... and even then we knew it was only a preliminaty step to greater things. I really do feel kind of bad for some of the PSU fan base. This whole week really shows how far they've fallen as a program and how desperate their fans are. They are creating an enormous amout of pressure for themselves when none should exist. Should be a nice hard hitting "top 25" match up ... but, it's make or break for them. Sad.
 
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Just read this in the newspaper and found the online version. This is how the guy broke down the matchups for Saturday night's game.

QB: Advantage None(If I were Troy I'd be pissed)
RB: Advantage None
WR: Advantage Penn State(I can't make this shit up)
OL: Advantage None
DL: Advantage Penn State
LB: Advantage None(See WR)
DB: Advantage None
Special Teams: Advantage Ohio State

I just hope the Bucks can give them a game. :biggrin:

Lions’ bite worse than Bucks’ bark?

By JON SPENCER

Call me crazy, but I think Ohio State is walking into an ambush Saturday night.

Santonio Holmes to this reporter: You’re crazy.

OK, those weren’t his exact words, but when I mentioned the Buckeyes will be facing pretty much the same Penn State defense that held them to one offensive touchdown last year in the ’Shoe,

Holmes didn’t even blink.

He spouted something about a conservative gameplan.

He’s correct. After going up 14-0 in the first quarter on a Ted Ginn (remember him?) punt return and a Tyler Everett interception return,
Jim Tressel closed up shop on his offense. Quarterback Troy Smith, making his second career start, went the distance but only attempted eight passes, completing six, in the 21-10 victory.

Holmes is correct, too, when he said, “We have to believe we can go deep and that we can throw well on these guys.”

You won’t know unless you take off the seatbelts, right Tress?

The Buckeyes should run more streaks and deep post patterns, taking advantage of the speed Holmes and Ginn and Anthony Gonzalez give them on the outside.

What works for the supposedly stodgy JoePa — have you seen the young Lions he’s turned loose in opposing secondaries? — should work for Ohio State.

That said, there’s a fine line between believing you can pass on the Nittany Lions and dismissing their defensive backs as so many paper lions.

Holmes came dangerously close to crossing that line when asked to respond to Tressel’s comment that Penn State’s Anwar Phillips and Alan Zemaitis might be the best set of cornerbacks in the Big Ten.

“To be honest, I don’t care about them ... I know we can beat them deep,” Holmes said. “Their technique is sound and they’ve earned respect, but we can bring them down to reality.”

And that is?

“Reality is, you can’t live off the hype of what you’ve done in previous games,” Holmes said, referring to the 5-0 Lions. “You’ve got to play every game. With this week, you’ve got three, four, five great receivers coming in (to State College), so you’ve got to be ready.”

Maybe it’s Holmes who needs a shot of reality. And running back Antonio Pittman. Emboldened by his 171-yard, 28-carry performance against Iowa, Pittman didn’t seem all that impressed by Penn State’s 44-14 rout last week of then-No. 18 Minnesota.

“They’ve got a great defense, but Minnesota is basically a straight run team,” Pittman said. “You stop the run, you shut down the whole team. With us, we’ve got so many weapons.”

Comments like that feed my fear that Ohio State is feeling a wee bit too good about itself and has had way too much time to gloat about its last outing — a 31-6 pasting of Iowa on Sept. 24.

Here’s reality guys: You’re walking into a hostile 107,000-seat arena, where the fans haven’t been this jazzed about a game in three years.

More reality: You’ve lost night road games after bye weeks after victories the last two years.

Still more reality: OSU is 2-4 in Beaver Stadium since the Lions joined the Big Ten in 1993 and those two wins were great escapes by teams arguably better than this year’s edition.

“Even when they’ve had tough years, the games with us have been close,” safety Nate Salley said. “This year, they’re finding ways to win.”

Some see wariness as a sign of weakness, but I’m convinced most of the Buckeyes — Salley excluded — aren’t wary enough.

Prediction: Penn State 16, Ohio State 13

OSU football writer Jon Spencer can be reached at [email protected].


Originally published October 7, 2005
 
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Just read this in the newspaper and found the online version. This is how the guy broke down the matchups for Saturday night's game.

QB: Advantage None(If I were Troy I'd be pissed)
RB: Advantage None
WR: Advantage Penn State(I can't make this shit up)
OL: Advantage None
DL: Advantage Penn State
LB: Advantage None(See WR)
DB: Advantage None
Special Teams: Advantage Ohio State

I just hope the Bucks can give them a game. :biggrin:

They need better quality control in central PA crack houses...
 
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