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Game Thread Game Five: Penn State 17, Ohio State 10 (Final)

Keys to the Big Games
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Ohio State vs. Penn State
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a. The Rookie – Flash back one year ago, if you will. Penn State ran a little option with Zack Mills, but the offense couldn’t score it’s way out of a paper bag. Hmm, interesting. This year, the option is a valuable weapon in this offense. Sure, QB Michael Robinson is better than Mills at running the option, but what has made this option that much more dangerous is the use of Derrick Williams as the pitch man. Okay, so you don’t like the option? Perhaps, you don’t want to see Penn State run the option. That’s fine, but you better find a way to put the ball in #2’s hands. The option is a perfect way to do that. When you see a kid that has ‘it’, you find a way to get him the ball. When they ran the option against Minnesota, he displayed the most impressive aspect of his game - the burst he had when he got the ball in his hands. On his first rushing TD of the Gopher game, he took the pitch and went from 0 to 60 in about 2.5 seconds. Most runners, especially guys that don’t get 25 carries a game, will have trouble finding a hole in a defense. But, Williams is so quick that he saw a glimmer of light, and burst through it like a man with his hair on fire (or with his wife chasing him). And, on the reverse in the second quarter, it was the same thing. Williams explodes past defenders, all the while making cuts at full speed. Ohio State is the one defense that can match the Nittany Lions’ Young Guns step for step, but Williams is another level of fast. Combined with Justin King and Deon Butler, PSU has some play makers on the perimeter for the first time in a long time, but it’s Williams that gives them a different dimension, (and takes heat off of both Robinson and Tony Hunt/Austin Scott in the running game) with his ability to carry the ball on option pitches and perimeter runs. The Buckeyes must find a way limit his touches, especially on the option, forcing Robinson to run into linebacker and/or safety support. That isn’t a great ‘option’ for the Buckeyes, either, but if they let the deuce loose, it’s trouble.

b. The Sophomore – It’s time. Quit playing around. Get him the ball. No questions asked. No matter what you have to do. Shoot, look across the field to see how PSU gets the ball to their ‘athletes’. That’s right. Ted Ginn? Meet football. 15 times. At least. It was this month last year when Ted Ginn announced his presence into college football with authority against Michigan State. But, the Buckeyes either won’t find a way to get him the ball, won’t give him the ball or he’s not 100% healthy. He doesn’t seem to be hurt, and in some respect, he’s fallen victim to opponents’ defensive focus, each and every week. Texas rolled coverage to his side all game long. Teams know that they can’t let #7 get rolling, and because of that, Santonio Holmes gets man coverage. Anthony Gonzales gets linebackers in man coverage. His presence alone gives others the chance to make plays, but it’s now time to force the issue. Okay, so ‘force’ is a harsh word, but somehow, Jim Tressel and Jim Bollman have got to put maximum pressure on defenses with Ginn. What’s a little frustrating is that in the opener against Miami University, Ginn moved around, came in motion, caught quick screens – that was the originality and innovation that we all craved. But, it hasn’t been quite that way since. So, change it. Come up with as many ways to get him the ball this weekend. It doesn’t have to be a bunch of trickeration, just hand him the ball. Shoot, at that rate, let him be the one on the backside of the formation all alone. Put the fear of #7 in the PSU defense all game long. No decoys. Just give him the darn ball.

c. The Veteran – With all of the newbies in blue and white running around with the football in their hands, it might just take a veteran like Buckeye AJ Hawk to put them in their place. Hawk has his hands full, unlike the test he had against Texas and Vince Young, and that should make you, the college football fan smile. Hawk seems to relish opportunities to take down the flashy offensive stars on the field. With the mix of spread option and I formation, the Nittany Lions will find a way to run the football with as many different ball carriers as they can. Hawk doesn’t really have a power back to worry too much about (Austin Scott is the closest thing), but he’ll have a number of opportunities to make tackles in the open field on Williams, Robinson and Hunt. But, if there’s a guy who can play in space, just as well as he can make plays between the tackles, it’s Hawk. The Ohio State defensive staff mixed in some blitz packages against Texas and Iowa, so it’ll be interesting to see how they do and what they do against Penn State’s varied running game. In particular, the key will be how they use Hawk – as a blitz disrupter or as a scraping LB behind blitzers Bobby Carpenter, Anthony Schelgel or Donte Whitner. The Buckeyes can play it straight up as well, because Hawk is so difficult to block at the second level. All in all, Hawk’s versatility gives the Buckeye defense some options, even if he’ll play the part of the old man chasing the young bucks.

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[FONT=verdana, arial, sans serif]Conclusion – The Penn State bandwagon is filling up quite rapidly, but the additions of the Young Guns on offense have transformed this entire team. The defense has been solid for most of the last two years, but they’ve not really faced an offense as talented as the one they’re going to see on Saturday. No matter whether you’re a Buckeye or a Nittany Lion, you’ll be holding your breath every time #2, #3, #4, #7, #10, #11 or #12 has the ball in his hands. These teams are almost mirror images of one another, but Ohio State has a little edge in their offensive line. That’s enough to make a touchdown’s difference. In what should be a great game, the Buckeyes stay unbeaten in the Big Ten.[/FONT]
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For some reason i think its going to be a low scoring game with Ohio State winning and I think JoePa has something up his sleeve like somebody waiting in the bushes to ambush us. And then again we could blow them right out of the water and for sure the Penn State faithfull would be calling for his head.
I believe he is on shakey ground. Last weeks drubbing of Minnesota was a big surprise to me. I thought Glen Mason finally was getting his act together but for them to lose to Penn State was an embarassment. Hopefully they spent all thier offensive power against Minnesota and will have nothing to offer for us. I still get nervous though when we have to go to Happy Valley for a game. With the way some of the BIg10 teams losing this year so early in the season, makes me think that it is not that powerful of a conference.
 
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Who has the best LBs, PSU or OSU?
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>By Sam Ross Jr.
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, October 6, 2005

The linebackers are the crown jewels of the Penn State and Ohio State defenses, each set eager to outshine the other when their teams share the Beaver Stadium field Saturday night.
"You always try to outplay them, and I'm sure they're thinking the same thing," Buckeyes middle linebacker Anthony Schlegel said Wednesday. "I remember last year watching them a little bit when we were off the field. They are playmakers, and they fly to the ball. That's what stands out. That's what other linebackers look at. They've got a lot of good guys, and that's what Penn State has been known for."
The best of the current Lions linebackers is Paul Posluszny, the junior outside man who was honored for the second consecutive week as the outstanding Big Ten Conference defensive player. Posluszny also won the weekly Walter Camp national award for his play against Minnesota, making nine tackles, two of them for losses. A week earlier, he had 22 total tackles against Northwestern.
Posluszny respects the group of linebackers the Buckeyes have assembled, led by returning All-American senior A.J. Hawk, who also had been Big Ten defensive player of the week earlier this season.
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"They've got great players, (an) All-American. Guys who are all-everything football players," Posluszny said. "You can't take anything away from them. They make a lot of plays defensively, so they've got to be up there as one of the best units."
Ohio State's defense, led by those linebackers, is fifth nationally against the rush, allowing 41 yards a game, and fifth in total defense, surrendering 249 yards. Hawk is fifth in the Big Ten, averaging 10 tackles a game.
Penn State's defense, which had its strongest showing to date last week against Minnesota, is 20th against the rush (90.6 yards) and 27th in overall defense (308.6). Posluszny is third in the Big Ten at 11.4 tackles a game.
Joining Hawk and Schlegel in the Ohio State starting group is Bobby Carpenter. Starters besides Posluszny for Penn State are Tim Shaw at the other outside post and Tyrell Sales inside. Dan Connor has played extensively in recent weeks after returning from a disciplinary suspension.
There's little to chose between the two groups.
"I think they're similar from the standpoint they're both sets of linebackers who are very physical, both sets play extremely hard and make plays," Ohio State coach Jim Tressel said. "Obviously, both sets of them diagnose what you're trying to do offensively very well, and they're fast learners."
"The Ohio State guys deserve everything they get in terms of publicity," Penn State defensive coordinator Tom Bradley said. "They're certainly a group you want to emulate.
"A.J Hawk, he's in another world. He's excellent and plays football the way it's meant to be played, all-out, all the time. I think Paul's time (for All-America recognition) will come when it's right."
So, which group is better? "Obviously, I have a little bit more bias to the Penn State linebackers," Lions quarterback Michael Robinson said. "I think they're the best thing since sliced bread.

WRONG WRONG WRONG

Ohio State is FIRST against the rush, not fifth!

TEAM_____________ypc_ ypg
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With the way some of the BIg10 teams losing this year so early in the season, makes me think that it is not that powerful of a conference.
actually it means there's a lot more parity, similar to the SEC (with Georgia, Tennessee, LSU, Florida, Auburn all on a similar level, and probably Alabama too without prothro). We aren't a 1-2 team conference like the Pac10 or Big12.

Either way, this is gonna be horrible for PSU recruiting, not just the reactions this week but all the badmouthing options available to recruiters from other schools.
 
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Does PSU have better linebackers than we do? If you have to compare yourselves to someone, then you're probably not the best. Our linebackers are the standard for which everyone compares every other unit in the country. Different conversations come up about different linebacking corps, and it always comes down to who's better. tOSU, or team B's LBs. It's never asked if FSU or Iowa has the better crew, or PSU-Iowa, or FSU-PSU. When you're the one that everyone compares themselves to, then you are obviously the best. The same holds true for best rivalry. tOSU - UM is always the one that gets compared to every other rivalry. That, in and of itself, makes it the best rivalry of them all.
 
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buckeyeboy said:
I hope we blast them by 50 too. But I'm not sure I agree with the "just one time" language--didn't we just totally demoralize Iowa?
Well, kinda. We could have put 50 on them, but we didn't. Way too many mistakes. And Iowa wasn't a lesser team to the extent that Penn State is.

Plus I don't live in Iowa and have to put up with stupid Iowa shit. At least when they suck they admit it.
 
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I really think this game could be an explosion from the offense. I have a feeling TGII is going to make up for lost time this year by going absolutely ape shit on PSU. I think PSU fans are scared to come over and talk to us. I hate Penn State and their faggotty blue and white uniforms. They should have stuck with pink- it suits them better.
I'm really getting pumped for this game. I think I'm going to venture over to a PSU board for a little while, see what the homos have to say.
 
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Prediction

FYI - I found this "prediction" in USA Today:



No. 6 Ohio State at No. 18 Penn State, 7:45 p.m.

Are the Nittany Lions really back? The win against Minnesota at least puts Joe Paterno's team in the conversation. A win against Ohio State makes them the talk of the Big Ten.

Penn State 17, Ohio State 16
 
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