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G/F Evan "The Villain" Turner (2010 Naismith Winner)

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MaxBuck;1673801; said:
Just look at Bruce Weber's facial expressions during a game and tell me you don't think he's a whiny little girl.
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And then you hear his voice ONCE and it's confirmed that he's a whiny girl. Last year at OSU I was yelling at him from behind the Illinois bench saying he sounds like a girl and apparently some Illinois parents might have got a little mad :biggrin:

Love EVAN Almighty and he's right that Illinois had no right to talk shit. We've smacked them twice and Turner took it over again. ET is the last guy I'd talk shit to.
 
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mross34;1672894; said:
Was talking about this with a friend earlier today. Where if at all does ET fit on this list:

The 10 best NCAA basketball players of the decade - The Dagger - NCAAB Blog - Yahoo! Sports

I would reorder the top 3 to Durant, Battier, Hansbrough. I'd probably slot Turner in at 2 at the lowest. Although the Bucks have a good supporting cast, Turner simply doesn't have the support Battier or Hansbrough were fortunate enough to have.
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That list is a a joke. Durant is #3 and Carmelo Anthony is only honorable mention? It called Durant a "once in a generation talent" but Carmelo put up virtually identical stats. Carmelo also won a national championship while Durant couldn't make it past the second round. A supposed "once in a generation" talent should at least be able to carry his team to the Sweet Sixteen. Even Wally Szczerbiak managed to do that in the '90s.
 
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jlb1705;1674861; said:
That list is a a joke. Durant is #3 and Carmelo Anthony is only honorable mention? It called Durant a "once in a generation talent" but Carmelo put up virtually identical stats. Carmelo also won a national championship while Durant couldn't make it past the second round. A supposed "once in a generation" talent should at least be able to carry his team to the Sweet Sixteen. Even Wally Szczerbiak managed to do that in the '90s.
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I agree with what you're saying about going deep into the postseason, but Carmelo played on a team with some nice complimentary college talent. Durant's support was awful.

Also, Durant averaged almost 5 points per game more more than Anthony did, and averaged 7 points per game more once his conference schedule rolled around.

Anthony had an unbelievable tournament but he wasn't even a 1st Team All American. Durant was POY.
 
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mross34;1674865; said:
I agree with what you're saying about going deep into the postseason, but Carmelo played on a team with some nice complimentary college talent. Durant's support was awful.

Also, Durant averaged almost 5 points per game more more than Anthony did, and averaged 7 points per game more once his conference schedule rolled around.

Anthony had an unbelievable tournament but he wasn't even a 1st Team All American. Durant was POY.
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The stats I saw showed a difference of about 3 ppg between the two. I'll have to take your word that Texas didn't have that great of a supporting cast. It seems kinda hard to believe - Texas has been a pretty strong program over the last decade.

Anthony didn't get the All-American or Naismith honors that Durant got because in my opinion the people who decide such things made mistakes. I think Anthony should have been a first teamer above any one of T.J. Ford, Nick Collison or Josh Howard. It also seems to me that Ford's Naismith Award should gone either to Anthony or one of the other two first teamers that year, David West or Dwayne Wade.

Anyway, I don't want to take this thread too far off track, I just noticed that list and was surprised to see two players who are so similar be regarded so differently.
 
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March 18, 2010
Every Play Counts
Evan Turner
by Kevin Pelton

In "Every Play Counts," Kevin Pelton focuses on one player, team or matchup in a single game, looking to explain how and why they succeed or fail. Naturally, one game isn't everything, but the results can be illuminating.

How do we define a player's role in his team's offense? There are a variety of ways, starting with the most obvious of methods, finding out how often a possession ended with the ball in his hands (usage rate, as we call it). In the past, I've used touches to account for the fact that the player creating the shot is often as important to the outcome of the play as the one who actually attempts it. Even touches, however, are slightly lacking in the sense that not all of them are created equal. A quick-passing team may get each of its players a handful of quick touches in the time a dominant point guard handles the ball.

To me, then, the best measure is something much more difficult to quantify: time. How long does a player have the ball in his hands? I don't have a good answer to that question, so I set about tracking it. My subject? Ohio State's Evan Turner, Basketball Prospectus' National Player of the Year and the likely No. 2 overall pick in this June's NBA Draft. Turner was the Buckeyes' leading scorer and played a key role in the offense long before Thad Matta decided to put his best talent on the floor by making Tuner his point guard. Now, he runs the Ohio State show as much as any player in the country.

I DVRed Sunday's Big Ten Tournament final, where the Buckeyes ran away from Minnesota in the second half, and tracked the time Turner spent with the ball in his hands. (No, I didn't have a stopwatch in my hand or anything. I either used the clock or counted in my head. These are not exact calculations.) Remarkably, of the 68 plays I tracked, Turner handled the ball on 62. The exceptions were basically all fast breaks, like David Lighty's consecutive end-to-end scores during Ohio State's second-half run.

In total, I calculated Turner had the ball for seven minutes and 24 seconds. He played 38:35, so assuming that the Buckeyes and the Golden Gophers had equal possession, Turner handled the ball a whopping 38.3 percent of the time Ohio State had it. Now, since this is the first time I've calculated this, I have nothing to use as a comparison, but that makes Turner's tendency to turn the ball over a little more understandable, does it not?
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Basketball Prospectus | Articles | Every Play Counts: Evan Turner
 
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