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G/F Evan "The Villain" Turner (2010 Naismith Winner)

In my opinion the player of the year will be determined on NBA draft day. The real player of the year will shaking David Stern's hand after the 1st pick is made. Everyone else's player of the year is just a worthless popularity poll.

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Disclaimer: If the actual first pick is from a foriegn country; then the player of the year is the first pick that played in the NCAA. :biggrin:
 
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just hand him the Big 10 POY award now. Turner is taking over games to the point that he is starting to run away w/ the Nat'l POY award as well. Big win Sunday. I'll be rooting for MSU this Sunday. That would really make for a log jam @ the top of conference. Who gets the #1 seed in the tourney if they all finish w/ 4 losses?

:oh::io:
 
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mendensa;1663794; said:
just hand him the Big 10 POY award now. Turner is taking over games to the point that he is starting to run away w/ the Nat'l POY award as well. Big win Sunday. I'll be rooting for MSU this Sunday. That would really make for a log jam @ the top of conference. Who gets the #1 seed in the tourney if they all finish w/ 4 losses?

:oh::io:

Tiebreaking Procedures
2010 Big Ten Men's Basketball Tournament

Section 30. Seeding Participants I. Teams shall be seeded No. 1 through No. 11 in the tournament bracket based on the final regular-season Conference standings.
II. A team's seed shall correspond to its regular-season finish (i.e., the champion shall be the No. 1 seed, the runner-up the No. 2 seed, etc.).
III. Teams that finished Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 in the regular-season shall receive a "bye" on the first day.
IV. In case of a tie for any place finish in the regular-season standings, the following tie-breaking procedure shall be followed in order to seed teams in the tournament bracket:
A. Two-team tie:
1. Results of head-to-head competition during the regular-season.
2. Each team's record vs. the team occupying the highest position in the final regular-season standings (or in the case of a tie for the championship, the next highest position in the regular-season standings), continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
a. When arriving at another pair of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to their own tie-breaking procedures), rather than the performance against the individual tied teams.
b. When comparing records against a single team or a group of teams, the higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0).
3. Won-loss percentage of all Division I opponents.
4. Coin toss conducted by the Commissioner or designee.
B. Multiple team tie:
1. Results of head-to-head competition during the regular-season. a. When comparing records against the tied teams, the team with the higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0).
b. After the top team among the tied teams is determined, the second team is ranked by its record among the original tied teams, not the head-to-head record vs. the remaining team(s).
2. If the remaining teams are still tied, then each tied team's record shall be compared to the team occupying the highest position in the final regular-season standings, continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
a. When arriving at another pair of tied teams while comparing records, use each team's record against the collective tied teams as a group (prior to their own tie-breaking procedures), rather than the performance against the individual tied teams.
b. When comparing records against a single team or group of teams, the higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0).
3. Won-loss percentage of Division I opponents.
4. Coin toss conducted by Commissioner or designee.


Tiebreaking Procedures - BIG TEN OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE
 
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mendensa;1663794; said:
just hand him the Big 10 POY award now. Turner is taking over games to the point that he is starting to run away w/ the Nat'l POY award as well. Big win Sunday. I'll be rooting for MSU this Sunday. That would really make for a log jam @ the top of conference. Who gets the #1 seed in the tourney if they all finish w/ 4 losses?

:oh::io:

A 3-way tie with 4 losses would give tOSU the tiebreaker, since head-to-head among the 3 teams tOSU is 2-1, Purdue would be 2-2, and Sparty would be 1-2.

Purdue won at Sparty, but for the 3-way tie with 4 losses to occur, Sparty would be winning in West Lafayette this coming Sunday.
 
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B. Multiple team tie:
1. Results of head-to-head competition during the regular-season. a. When comparing records against the tied teams, the team with the higher winning percentage shall prevail, even if the number of games played against the team or group are unequal (i.e., 2-0 is better than 3-1, but 2-0 is not better than 1-0).

If OSU wins out, MSU wins out, and Purdue wins out except against Sparty, all 3 will be 14-4 in conference. OSU will be 2-1 against MSU/Purdue, Purdue would be 2-2 against OSU/MSU, and MSU would be 1-2 against OSU/Purdue - so OSU would be the #1 seed in the tourney. Go Sparty!

If OSU wins out and Purdue wins out except against someone other than Sparty:
Those 2 will tie at 14-4. MSU would presumably be 13-5, as would Wisconsin. OSU would be 2-1 against Sparty/Bucky (fuck him), Purdue would be 3-1 against Sparty/Bucky (double fuck him) so Purdue would get the edge.

Beyond that, things get hairy and I don't have the patience today.
 
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Buckskin86;1663545; said:

From that:

In the past three games - at Illinois, against Purdue, at Michigan State - Turner has 65 points, 28 rebounds and 19 assists in 118 out of a possible 120 minutes.

A little over a week ago, when the top of the Big Ten was a clusterfuck and OSU had Illinois, Purdue, and MSU on the slate, I'd take 65/28/19 in a heartbeat. I do question only playing 118 of 120 possible minutes though. Sounds like ET has been slacking off.

Really frustrating to wonder where this team might be (1) without ETs injury and (2) without there being a lid on the basket the first half of the last Purdue game and the UNC game. 26-2? 25-3?
 
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Evan Turner is averaging 19.5 points, 9.3 rebounds and 5.8 assists for Ohio State and is in the running for player-of-the-year honors.

By Jay LaPrete for USA TODAY
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Evan Turner turns up heat, joins nation's elite at Ohio State Updated 7h 20m ago​

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Evan Turner gets off a shot during Ohio State's victory over Purdue on Jan. 12. Turner's early return from a back injury has helped the Buckeyes climb to No. 9 in the USA TODAY/ESPN coaches' poll


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By Marlen Garcia, USA TODAY
COLUMBUS, Ohio ? Evan Turner's roommate describes Ohio State's do-it-all point guard as fearless and relentless on the basketball court.
That's probably true of all national player of the year contenders, an elite group Turner, 21, has joined. Yet he has distinguished himself by continuing to play with such moxie since returning from a month-long layoff after a December fall that broke two vertebrae in his back.
"Other guys might (worry) about getting hit in the lane," roommate and 6-6 junior guard Jon Diebler says. "My man was trying to dunk and do the same things he had been. That's how he is."
Turner is a versatile 6-7 junior who over three seasons has played four positions. Maybe his biggest achievement is the self-doubt he has overcome since freshman year.
"I had a lot of learning to do," says Turner, who averaged 8.5 points in a turnover-prone first season. "I didn't know how I was going to be at this level."
He turned out to be a star. He is projected to be the No. 2 pick behind Kentucky's John Wall in the June NBA draft, if they leave early, according to NBAdraft.net and DraftExpress.com.

Cont...
 
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BuckeyeTillIDie;1663811; said:
Dear God, NO!!!

Why do all the Ohio State players have to go to the crappiest NBA franchises?


The reason the Buckeye players in the last 3 years are getting picked up by bad teams is b/c they have been early first round picks. There is a reason those teams pick early: they had horrible years the year before. That's what I like about the NBA. You can take a bad team and in two years, if they draft well, can be a playoff team.
 
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Conley and Oden were the only two taken in the lottery or even in the top half of the draft for that matter. All the recent Buckeye draft picks are actually on pretty decent teams. The Blazers, Heat, Thunder and Jazz are all playoff teams as of right now and even though the Grizzlies currently aren't in the playoffs they are above .500. The Buckeye players clearly aren't on crappy teams, they're just on teams that don't get a lot of attention.
 
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Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog

Many might consider it a foregone conclusion that Evan Turner will declare for the NBA after this season. As a leading candidate for national player of the year honors in his third collegiate season, Turner has more experience than most NBA draft picks.
But in a conference call today, Turner made it clear that he?s not a lock to leave Ohio State.
?At the end of the season, I?ll have to come and make a decision,? Turner said. ?It?s all based on how we?re going to do this year ? these next two (regular-season) games and then March. If I don?t get all I want to get out of college? then I?m going to be back for another year.?
 
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Posted: Friday February 26, 2010
Turner does everything for No. 9 Ohio State

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) - Watch 30 seconds of highlights from an Ohio State game and you'd think the Buckeyes had four guys who wear No. 21.

Need a rebound? Evan Turner will get it. A defensive stop? Ditto. An assist? A big bucket? Turner will provide those, too.

Few if any teams in the nation depend more on one player than No. 9 Ohio State does on Evan Turner. It's not a secret, either.

West Virginia's Devin Ebanks previewed his team's January game against the Buckeyes by isolating on just one player.

"If Evan Turner doesn't get going, his team doesn't get going,'' Ebanks said. "If we can stop him, we can stop the team.''

A kid who wasn't all that highly touted as a high school recruit, Turner has now become not just the player most valuable to his team, but also perhaps the best college player in the land.

"The best part of Evan Turner is ... all the parts,'' Wisconsin coach Bo Ryan said. "He just really doesn't have a weakness.''

The scary part for opponents is that there's no simple way to put the clamps on the 6-foot-7 junior, who is averaging 19.7 points, 9.2 rebounds and 6 assists for a team that is 18-4 with him and 3-3 without him.

"Evan Turner is the best player in the country,'' Purdue coach Matt Painter said. "He can hurt you in so many ways. He's a lead guard who can defend and play three or four positions.''

Turner has been selected the Big Ten's player of the week six times this season even though he's only been healthy and available to play 11 weeks. In his career, he's won the honor nine times - more than any Big Ten player ever.

He starred at St. Joseph's High School outside Chicago, but was considered the team's second-best player behind Demetri McCamey, now a rival at Illinois. One major scouting service listed Turner as the 16th-best small-forward prospect in the country, four slots behind Purdue's Robbie Hummel, his roommate and good friend on last summer's U.S. team at the World University Games.

It's how you finish, not how you start, Turner said.

"I always have had a little bit of confidence that I would be superior in some aspect of the game,'' Turner said. "I just worked hard and kept working hard and kept working hard. That's what motivated me to not be just any old guy on a court. You know, to make a difference and be an impact player.''

Read More: Turner does everything for No. 9 Ohio State - ncaa - SI.com
 
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