G/F Evan "The Villain" Turner (2010 Naismith Winner)

[TRON 2.0]

You know, it was just last week that Ice Cube messed around and got one.

Woke her up around one / She didn't hesitate, to call TRON 2.0 the top gun ...

 

[OHSportsFan]

Saw this on ESPN, confirmed by Wikipedia:

Most triple-doubles in a single season: Michael Anderson (1986 at Drexel), Brian Shaw (1988 at UC Santa Barbara), Jason Kidd (1994 at Cal) and Stephane Lasme (2007 at Massachusetts) each recorded four triple-doubles in a single season.

I think he can break that.

 

[schwab]

...confirmed by Wikipedia:...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFBDn5PiL00]YouTube - Wikipedia[/ame]

Just playin, I think he can break it too.... actually, I think he will, not much doubt about it... this kid is that good!

 

[Tlangs]

You know, it was just last week that Ice Cube messed around and got one.

 

[Steve19]

Mama knows best...put that child in scarlet!

 

[Buckskin86]

The Turner watch

The OSU Insider that I write weekly during the basketball season usually has a "watch" on an individual player. It started with Greg Oden in 2006 because of his wrist injury and last year focused on B.J. Mullens and his status as a potential one-and-done NBA draft pick.

I didn't have reason to watch anyone to start this season, but Evan Turner quickly took care of that.

He was a quiet first-team All-American on a few preseason lists, even though a panel of Big Ten media again did not vote him the conference's best player.

Turner raised his profile immediately with a triple-double (17 points, 14 rebounds, 10 assists) against Alcorn State in the season opener.

Then he did it again last night against Lipscomb with 16 points, a career-high 11 assists and 10 rebounds, and suddenly there is something to watch beyond his early-entry draft status.

I checked the NCAA Division I record book this morning and found that the record for triple-doubles in a season is four -- by Michael Anderson of Drexel in 1986, Brian Shaw of UC-Santa Barbara in '88, Jason Kidd of California in '94 and Stephane Lasme of Massachusetts in 2007.

The Turner watch (Hoops & Scoops: an OSU basketball blog)

Chad Ford has ET as #6 on his Big Board...

2010 NBA Draft - ESPN

Clark (Durham, NC)
I know you have Evan Turner higher on the board than Xavier Henry, but do you think Henry is the better shooter?

Chad Ford
I agree Henry is a better shooter. But Turner takes him in virtually every other category. In fact, I think Turner is the most well rounded player in the country and a potential Top 5 pick. Henry also has a good shot of going in the lottery.

Chat: Chat with Chad Ford - SportsNation - ESPN

 

[BrutusBobcat]

From what I gathered in the post-game studio analysis, Turner is the only BigTen player ever to have earned 2 triple doubles in their CAREER, let alone 2 in the same month? If so, I am quite shocked at that stat.

Especially considering that one Earvin Johnson played in the Big Ten. I'd have bet money that he'd done it.

 

[LitlBuck]

Especially considering that one Earvin Johnson played in the Big Ten. I'd have bet money that he'd done it.

I believe that they only started counting assists as a stat 15-20 years ago. I am pretty sure a lot of guys would have gotten triple doubles back in the 60s and 70s.

 

[02Buckeyes06]

Dana O'Neil: Evan Turner perseveres through tragedy - ESPN

After reading this article about Evan Turner, he has truely turned my head about what a great young man he is. I didnt know anything about this story before reading this and it is nice to see that ESPN did this.
In todays world you dont hear to many good storys like this. He has carried himself very well in his short 3 years at tOSU.

Congrats Evan you earned it.......

 

[gracelhink]

I believe that they only started counting assists as a stat 15-20 years ago. I am pretty sure a lot of guys would have gotten triple doubles back in the 60s and 70s.

Pretty accurate Litl! Actually it was 26 years ago when assists were recorded as an official statistic in college BB.

Individual assist records were not kept by the NCAA until the 1983-84 season.

Individual assists records

 

[BrutusBobcat]

Pretty accurate Litl! Actually it was 26 years ago when assists were recorded as an official statistic in college BB.



Individual assists records

Cool. That explains it. I was wondering how it could be possible that Magic didn't record a half dozen of them...per year.

 

[Dryden]

I believe assists were recorded as team records beginning back in the mid-to-late 60s, and then were unofficially recorded for individuals by some scorekeepers beginning in the early 70s. As it is, assists are rather arbitrary, like errors in baseball, and assist numbers went up across the board beginning in the late 80s & early 90s. Bill Walton, as an example of earlier players, is often credited with some absurd assist statistics back in his UCLA days. I checked an old UCLA media guide online, and Roy Hamilton (76-79) is the oldest player on their Top 10 assists list, sixth in school history with 512. Walton is credited with 316 assists between just two seasons (72-73 & 73-74). In his day, freshmen couldn't play, and it doesn't appear assists were recorded in his sophomore season 71-72.

As far as Ohio State history goes, I think it's fair to assume that Havlicek holds the all-time record for career triple-doubles, with whatever arbitrary number somebody wants to dream up. Say, maybe 8 to 10 a season over his three seasons?

 

[LitlBuck]

I believe assists were recorded as team records beginning back in the mid-to-late 60s, and then were unofficially recorded for individuals by some scorekeepers beginning in the early 70s. As it is, assists are rather arbitrary, like errors in baseball, and assist numbers went up across the board beginning in the late 80s & early 90s. Bill Walton, as an example of earlier players, is often credited with some absurd assist statistics back in his UCLA days. I checked an old UCLA media guide online, and Roy Hamilton (76-79) is the oldest player on their Top 10 assists list, sixth in school history with 512. Walton is credited with 316 assists between just two seasons (72-73 & 73-74). In his day, freshmen couldn't play, and it doesn't appear assists were recorded in his sophomore season 71-72.

As far as Ohio State history goes, I think it's fair to assume that Havlicek holds the all-time record for career triple-doubles, with whatever arbitrary number somebody wants to dream up. Say, maybe 8 to 10 a season over his three seasons?

I totally agree with you with the fact that assists are so arbitrary but I have to disagree with you when you say that Walton is probably credited with an absurd number of assists. John Wooden called him probably the best passing big man that he ever coached and when Walton went up to the high post he probably recorded an absurd number of assists by passing to guys cutting to the basket. Plus the fact, that he always played with very good players which certainly did not hurt him when he passed the ball from the high post. I don't put too much stock in assists because if you have great shooters on your team your assist are bound to go up.

 

[MaxBuck]

Assists are not at all arbitrary the way they are credited now in college hoop. If a player makes a pass to another player who then makes a field goal without dribbling, the first player is credited with the dime. Even one bounce will negate the assist.

I believe the criteria are relaxed in the NBA, but that's not what we're talking about here.

 

[gracelhink]

I believe assists were recorded as team records beginning back in the mid-to-late 60s, and then were unofficially recorded for individuals by some scorekeepers beginning in the early 70s. As it is, assists are rather arbitrary, like errors in baseball, and assist numbers went up across the board beginning in the late 80s & early 90s. Bill Walton, as an example of earlier players, is often credited with some absurd assist statistics back in his UCLA days. I checked an old UCLA media guide online, and Roy Hamilton (76-79) is the oldest player on their Top 10 assists list, sixth in school history with 512. Walton is credited with 316 assists between just two seasons (72-73 & 73-74). In his day, freshmen couldn't play, and it doesn't appear assists were recorded in his sophomore season 71-72.

As far as Ohio State history goes, I think it's fair to assume that Havlicek holds the all-time record for career triple-doubles, with whatever arbitrary number somebody wants to dream up. Say, maybe 8 to 10 a season over his three seasons?

On the official records and history site of OSU basketball, your recollection is proven accurate based on the assist records in tOSU history books.

As noted on page 132 of the OSU basketball record book, the yearly assist leaders were first recognized officially in 1974 as compared to the NCAA in 1984.
Re. Havlicek as the leader in career triple doubles, it is interesting that the records for double-doubles (page 141) indicates Hondo only had 27 double doubles in his 3 year career including 13 in his senior season (61-62).
Agree with the assumption that Havlicek holds the unofficial record for triple doubles, but probably at an arbitrary rate much less than 8-10 per year.
For some basketball purists, the records of double doubles by Jerry Lucas is eye opening! In his 3 year career Lucas recorded double doubles in 78 games. That means of his 84 games in 60-62, he fell short of a double double just 6 times!
Back to Turner, his accomplishments this year will seemingly require a new catgory for the OSU record book, since the triple double is not yet an official listing in the archives.