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You and I will invariably have two completely different ideas of what 'successful' means. I'll leave it at that.
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Naplesbuckeye
All-American
I have found this argument to be pretty stupid for the past ten years or so.
I was a TKE at OSU from 94-97 and it was one of the best decisions that I made. When I was at OSU, they were the biggest school in the country and I wanted an avenue to meet other people and make the school smaller.
People argue the "paying for friends thing" but it doesn't make sense to me. I paid $315 a quarter for dues and Social. We had two parties a week, three parties during Football season. That is like paying $30 a weekend for beer, food and entertainment. I met a ton of girls and guys in different houses and made a ton of friends. We could party in our houses and not have to worry about getting an underage or DUI from Columbus' finest.
When I traveled to the Fiesta Bowl I saw several people in different Fraternities and Sorrorities that I hadn't seen in years. These people were scattered all over the country but we recognized each other from functions and parties. Even today when we go to the VC before and after games, we run into each other and catch up aside, from tailgates and such. My fraternity brothers and I have a list proc. of over 150 email accounts so we can stay in touch and organize golf tournies etc. It is an amazing thing.
There are a ton of fraternities at a lot of schools and each campus is different. Our house had members from all over the United States and from all walks of life.
Even today I can travel to almost any city and have a fraternity brother to visit.
When I transfered to BGSU in 97 I was on the other side of the coin and lived with guys that were totally against the Greek System. In Fact, they made up Mock Tee Shirts of a Fictictious Frat that said Alpha Sigma Sigma (ASS) and on the back the shirt said "Pulling Tubes and Squeezing Boobs." Even the Greeks at BG thought it was funny. I listened to their reasoning for whay some of them didn't like Frats. and such and to this day I can totally see why some of them feel that way. However, you can't judge the whole system and state generalizations. It isn't fair to let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.
Some Greeks act like your a peeon if you weren't in a certain house or Greek at all. They assemble a cast system for others and believe that they are cooler than others. These people annoy most of us and they finally learn later in life that such a mentality is moronic. On the other hand, some non-greeks fail to see the friendships and experiences that occur in the Greek System and continue to state that it is a waste of time and money. I guess it is hard for anyone to say anything about being Greek if they haven't experienced it themselves. People shouldn't judge someone else unless they have walked a mile in their shoes.
I was a TKE at OSU from 94-97 and it was one of the best decisions that I made. When I was at OSU, they were the biggest school in the country and I wanted an avenue to meet other people and make the school smaller.
People argue the "paying for friends thing" but it doesn't make sense to me. I paid $315 a quarter for dues and Social. We had two parties a week, three parties during Football season. That is like paying $30 a weekend for beer, food and entertainment. I met a ton of girls and guys in different houses and made a ton of friends. We could party in our houses and not have to worry about getting an underage or DUI from Columbus' finest.
When I traveled to the Fiesta Bowl I saw several people in different Fraternities and Sorrorities that I hadn't seen in years. These people were scattered all over the country but we recognized each other from functions and parties. Even today when we go to the VC before and after games, we run into each other and catch up aside, from tailgates and such. My fraternity brothers and I have a list proc. of over 150 email accounts so we can stay in touch and organize golf tournies etc. It is an amazing thing.
There are a ton of fraternities at a lot of schools and each campus is different. Our house had members from all over the United States and from all walks of life.
Even today I can travel to almost any city and have a fraternity brother to visit.
When I transfered to BGSU in 97 I was on the other side of the coin and lived with guys that were totally against the Greek System. In Fact, they made up Mock Tee Shirts of a Fictictious Frat that said Alpha Sigma Sigma (ASS) and on the back the shirt said "Pulling Tubes and Squeezing Boobs." Even the Greeks at BG thought it was funny. I listened to their reasoning for whay some of them didn't like Frats. and such and to this day I can totally see why some of them feel that way. However, you can't judge the whole system and state generalizations. It isn't fair to let a few bad apples ruin the bunch.
Some Greeks act like your a peeon if you weren't in a certain house or Greek at all. They assemble a cast system for others and believe that they are cooler than others. These people annoy most of us and they finally learn later in life that such a mentality is moronic. On the other hand, some non-greeks fail to see the friendships and experiences that occur in the Greek System and continue to state that it is a waste of time and money. I guess it is hard for anyone to say anything about being Greek if they haven't experienced it themselves. People shouldn't judge someone else unless they have walked a mile in their shoes.
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i was just posting this to be fun.. just seeing if anyone else was in frat or anything, not everyone freak out and make this into a frat:good or bad arguement.. some of you people need to chill out.
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gbearbuck
Herbie for President
Was just at a wedding last night up in Clev... one of my wifes sorority sisters got married, and a lot of the girls in the house made the trip to wish her well. I ran into a couple of fraternity brothers (some I knew would be there others, I didn't think would be there), and had a great time. It's nice to see friends from all over the country at happy occasions.
We talked about some of the more crazy times, caught up with others that have been tough to track down, many have families of their own...
It's nice to go back down to school for Founders Day, and Home Coming... catch up with the guys (and gals... most of the guys married their girlfriends while in school)... we actually have a group, all from the fraternity, going out to Vegas in Sept... sould be a good time.
As stated above, Greek life isn't for everybody. I found it to be a quick way to meet many folks (within my fraternity, other fraternities, and gals of course
), get help with class if need be, have social functions throughout the week to go to if nothing else was going on (some do rely too heavy on the social aspect... I made it a point to try and befriend folks outside of the greek life, and have a social life not including the frat activities... funny how the bulk of the friends from college are greek though).
What fun memories I had last night... for those young (prob. better to be fresh. or soph.), in college and not greek... I'd encourage you to go through Rush. It really does "make the university get smaller" and is helpful in more ways than one. Check it out, see if there are any houses that you seem to get along with the guys. Each house is different, and there are houses for just about all walks of life...
We talked about some of the more crazy times, caught up with others that have been tough to track down, many have families of their own...
It's nice to go back down to school for Founders Day, and Home Coming... catch up with the guys (and gals... most of the guys married their girlfriends while in school)... we actually have a group, all from the fraternity, going out to Vegas in Sept... sould be a good time.
As stated above, Greek life isn't for everybody. I found it to be a quick way to meet many folks (within my fraternity, other fraternities, and gals of course
), get help with class if need be, have social functions throughout the week to go to if nothing else was going on (some do rely too heavy on the social aspect... I made it a point to try and befriend folks outside of the greek life, and have a social life not including the frat activities... funny how the bulk of the friends from college are greek though).What fun memories I had last night... for those young (prob. better to be fresh. or soph.), in college and not greek... I'd encourage you to go through Rush. It really does "make the university get smaller" and is helpful in more ways than one. Check it out, see if there are any houses that you seem to get along with the guys. Each house is different, and there are houses for just about all walks of life...
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I think what has shone through here is exactly what I said earlier. Fraternities are great for some people, and not for others. They offer a specific kind of social interaction (which certainly does vary from house to house) that meet certain people's needs. I think BuckeyeNation27 and ekeen are equally unjustified in their respective criticisms - I simply happened to find BN27's humor markedly more witty and effective.
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ekeen
Banned
vrbryant:
to tell you the truth I was 22 when I started school and had to live in the dorms for 2 quarters before I moved out. You think living in the dorms at 18 is hard......try 22. I had so many knocks on my door on Thursdays.....
For an older dude it was better to go to a place where there was an established older class of dudes in place.
So you are right, we all have reasons for joining whatever (athletic, social etc.)
to tell you the truth I was 22 when I started school and had to live in the dorms for 2 quarters before I moved out. You think living in the dorms at 18 is hard......try 22. I had so many knocks on my door on Thursdays.....
For an older dude it was better to go to a place where there was an established older class of dudes in place.
So you are right, we all have reasons for joining whatever (athletic, social etc.)
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i wouldve joined a frat if it actually WAS about meeting people and hanging out with a certain group of people. but you and i both know its about drinking till your stupid....which for most frat members isnt a far trip.
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ekeen: Totally understandable.
BN27: RightOn's got a point. You definitely don't need to be in a frat to be getting shitfaced five days a week.
BN27: RightOn's got a point. You definitely don't need to be in a frat to be getting shitfaced five days a week.
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but if you didnt WANT to get shitfaced five days a week....then you couldnt join the frat for all the social benefits you claim to gain once joining.
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gbearbuck
Herbie for President
27,
I lived in one of our fraternities annex for two years... there were many times I didn't go to the party that was held at my own house...
If you didn't want to go to the party, no problem... that's just more beer for the others. Now after hours parties, that's were you wanted to be
I lived in one of our fraternities annex for two years... there were many times I didn't go to the party that was held at my own house...
If you didn't want to go to the party, no problem... that's just more beer for the others. Now after hours parties, that's were you wanted to be
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Personally, I never was interested in the fraternity system and can't understand why someone would join one, but to each there own.ekeen said:
However, I cannot stand the rationalization of the above statement. I've never been and never will be a member of NAMBLA and would therefore fall into the category of knowing nothing about it, but I am still going to diss the organization and I would guess that all of you would too.
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I thought you founded Nambla grad..........
I to never joined a frat because of various reasons, most of it was because i became friends with many of the people on My floor (buckeyegrag & Thump included), and I was involved in other organizations. One of the funniest things I ever did here was when My roomate My freshman year said He was joining a frat because " the people on the floor had become to clicky" That one made Me laugh
I to never joined a frat because of various reasons, most of it was because i became friends with many of the people on My floor (buckeyegrag & Thump included), and I was involved in other organizations. One of the funniest things I ever did here was when My roomate My freshman year said He was joining a frat because " the people on the floor had become to clicky" That one made Me laugh
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Buckeye69
A.K.A. IBLEEDSCARLETANDGRAY
I was in a large frat at tOSU from 1976-1980 and I was also an athlete. I have found that my fraternity experience, other than being drunk most of the time, getting laid all of the time, and acting out of control for four years, has been extremely beneficial to me from a financial standpoint after graduation. I have definately used my fraternity connections to their fullest advantage over the last 24 years. I do believe though, that today being in a fraternity is nothing like what it used to be in the 70's. For one, hazing has been totally eliminated. My initiation week is one of the most memorable experiences of my life and would not trade it for anything, it actually made me mentally and physically stronger. For another, the drinking age is now 21 (when I was there you could at least drink beer at 18), not that a drinking age is stopping drinking in college! Anyway, frat life is for some and not for others.
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