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FOX BCS Coverage...Thoughts?

No Hometowns of players listed at the beginning. I've grown used to seeing that, kind of a college football trademark. Very dissapointed with that...Barry Alvarez wasn't bad at all.


It had the feel of an NFL game, wich is the exact opposite of how I like it. And WTF is up with that huge Effing arrow with the yardage needed for first downs? That thing blows.
 
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I thought the way they showed the starting lineups was very cumbersome and not very easy to read. If TWC wold get with the program and give me Fox-HD then maybe it would have been better, but I thought last night it was odd and difficult to read.
 
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wadc45;702623; said:
I'm a little surprised by some of the responses...the Fox coverage in general was fair but I thought Davis was absolutely awful. Part of being a great color man is knowing how much to talk. Davis felt the need to fill every second of air time with talk and even cut Alvarez off several times, which I thought was ridiculous. Plus his knowledge of the rules was pedestrian at best. I think Alavrez did a decent job, but for my money the crew that did the Rose Bowl is the best going right now. I am not a huge Musburger fan but have turned the corner on him in recent years and I really like Davie and Herbstreit working together. The only better group for me would be to sub in Ron Franklin for Musburger.

Agree. Didn't notice this Davis filling every moment until about 5 to go in the 4th, but once I noticed it, I was annoyed by it. Didn't seem to me that any of the guys were particularly comfortable with the talking aspect of their job, lots of vocal stumbles - stutters, etc.. But, that aside, I didn't think it was "unwatchable" or anything.
 
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I thought it was okay. As long as Bob Costas is not involved I can take just about anything.

I WOULD like to tell the producers that we have had enough of the "show the dejected band members" after the other team scores or has a huge play. I mean, that got old.

I am also glad that even though Meatchicken did not represent, we had two Big 10 teams beat SEC teams, so hopefully we won't have to hear too much of the crap about "SEC speed".

Finally, I stayed up and watched the Boise State game, and gentlemen, that was one cool game. Good stuff, and for the most part the announcers stayed out of the way.

I'm at work now but I need a friggin' nap!!

Go Bucks!
 
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Buckeye86;702626; said:
I thought the commentary for the Fiesta Bowl was much, much better than the Rose Bowl, if we get the same crew for our game I will be happy.

They are indeed one and the same, all.

Things Fox could have done better.
A - Stop it with the banner bar at the top of the screen. Put it up when needed, then flash it away to give us all a full and uninterrupted view of the game.
B - Hometown Heroes - Put the town of origin back into the players lists, it isn't just for Ma, Pa or close relatives.
C - Prioritize the Intro of Players -- Note to FOX, the time to discuss the players is when the list and their mugs are on screen. Save the qualitative description of the merits of their play as a unit till the end of the intro. Knock him all you want, but that is something Jackson got right almost all the time. You could learn a thing or two from ABC on that score FOX.
D - You are not self-annointed Psychics. Stop with the prediction of play-calling until you clearly demonstrate an understanding of what will be called. True, this is easier when you are calling a game that features a lack of innovation by one or another team (cough - Rose Bowl - cough).
True, it is hard to do when the team on the field turns more tricks than a 2-dollar whore on the night the USS Enterprise makes port.
True you did make one correct prediction "they are going to go for the win right now." But, that does not erase the many "blown" predictions made along the way; these make your announcing team look stupid or uniformed.
 
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It was pretty funny when Switzer said 'we' about 3 times in 15 seconds during the halftime. I would have loved to have seen/heard his live reaction to the hook-and-ladder and the game-ending 2-point conversion. :tongue2:
 
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Alverez was very good - surprised me alot.
Davis, as WADC said, sometimes doesn't know when to shut up. He knows football, but he tries too hard sometimes to let you know that he knows football, you know?

What scares me about this crew for the NC game is that Alvarez will put on an anti-OSU performance a-la Fouts in '03. Hopefully not.

The Rose Bowl crew would be ideal (heck, McDonough and Spielman would be fine with me), but this crew will do fine, I think. Hopefully Tressel will embarass Chris Meyers with a witty answer to one of his stupid questions.

ANYBODY except Fouts!
 
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Pre Game: Always have liked JJ, Switzer is a moron among morons.

Announcers: Alvarez was by far one of the best I've heard in a long time. White did talk too much, but what he was saying usually had some substance so it was tolerable. Brennaman...meh.

Myers: If I was allowed to pick one, and only one, fellow human I could beat to death with a blunt object and not go to jail for it...he'd make my top 5.

Overall I was quite pleased. I guess the NFL network's horse abortion of a show had me very uneasy about a new network's coverage but I can live with what I saw last night.

Best thing I heard from an announcer so far this Bowl season was from White. To paraphrase; "We keep hearing all this talk about speed, which conferences have it and which don't. Let me just tell you, they all do."

Then of course you have Herbie over on ABC saying Bowl games showcase the different conferences and based on what he was seeing the Pac 10 was much faster than the B10. He has gone so far off the deep end trying not to appear to be a homer he's lost a lot of credibility.
 
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Maybe I didn't hear the entire broadcast as clearly as others -- could be, bucks4me and I started breaking down the Christmas tree in the living room after halftime, but I've read a number of complaints from people that the FOX crew was poorly attempting to predict the playcalls.

Now, there was only one instance where I heard this, or at least I think I heard this, and it was on one of Boise State's possessions in the first half, where Brennaman asked Alverez a question, then concluded, "So you'd expect the draw or the screen here?" on cue with a draw play that went nowhere.

Later in the game, I know Alvarez and Davis were taking the coaches to task for not running particular plays or calling particular sets, but I heard their commentary as being more critical than an attempt at prognostication. I thought Alvarez vindicated himself quite nicely after stumping for Oklahoma to run a stretch play when it was plainly obvious that AD up the gut into a 5-2 defense wasn't going to get it done, when AD stunningly rips off a 25-yard run off end going virtually untouched for a TD in OT.

I thought that play proved Alvarez's point. He's still a hell of a coach.

Whatever, though. I found it much more enjoyable listening to those three screw up their presumed predictions of future plays than listening to Jackson and Fouts butchering the plays occurring in the present. Jackson whiffed on fumble calls so often it made me want to break my TV set. You'd have thought USC and Texas combined for 35 turnovers in the Rose Bowl last year if you weren't watching the game yourself.
 
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I actualy enjoyed it. Thom and Alvarez were good, and the other guy was ok but he called for the deep ball too much. I loved Thom's emotion while he was calling the game.

I could do without Chris Rose on the pregame show, but he Switzer and Johnson were ok.

Thom and Barry Alvarez are great together, the rest was ok. Ok is a big upgrade over the crap ESPN/ABC was giving us.
 
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I agree 100%... Too much talking..

Alvarez is awesome though! Which is strange of me to say that because I was never big on him when he coached at Wisconsin. But his commentating was very good.. The other person, I don't like too much...
 
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