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Former QB Coach Nick Siciliano (official thread)

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I would also like to mention that I've opened a dialogue with a person in this forum who I respect a great deal for their knowledge and understanding of the workings of coaching and so forth. He has informed me that much of what is being seen by TP would not necessarily be laid at the foot of the QB coach. Thus, I have a better understanding of what is expected and is being done by Coach Siciliano. I also have a better grasp of the difficulty with attempting to cultivate the proper performance out of an athlete. It's not a position I would envy in the slightest.
 
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Nick is a knowledgeable guy.

However on the outside looking in. You see Urban Meyer hire Scott Loeffler as QBs coach when an opening comes up and Tressell hires a guy with experience coaching at Urbana and North Carolina A and T. However Nick has played for Tressel at Youngstown State.


Loeffler was a pro QB coach and Siciliano is a former position coach at Urbana and North Carolina A&T who's never coached a 1-A qb before.

Tressell is a knowledge guy when it comes to football. Can someone explain to me the logic in hiring Mr. Siciliano versus going outside the fam and hiring a QB coach with more experience?
 
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I personally dont like to use past statistics to justify the results of what has been more recently taking place.

Troy Smith progressed Very well from his jr to senior year.
Todd Boeckman did a very fine job progressing throughout the first year he started (2 years ago).

However, Todd boeckmans lack of progression after that NC-run year had me concerned just as TP's lack of current progression does. The positive note to losing to purdue is the spotlight that should now be cast on TP's progression and the rest of this season will be a good measuring stick to see just how good our QB coaching staff is (right now).

Theres no doubt they've done wonders in the past, but as someone else here mentioned we need to see what kind of improvments they can make to the "product" that is out there right now.

(Hopfully the o-line can step up the progression, the offense doesnt always lay on TP's shoulders)

Go Bucks! Beat Minny
 
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DaytonBuck;1571373; said:
Nick is a knowledgeable guy.

However on the outside looking in. You see Urban Meyer hire Scott Loeffler as QBs coach when an opening comes up and Tressell hires a guy with experience coaching at Urbana and North Carolina A and T. However Nick has played for Tressel at Youngstown State.

Loeffler was a pro QB coach and Siciliano is a former position coach at Urbana and North Carolina A&T who's never coached a 1-A qb before.

Tressell is a knowledge guy when it comes to football. Can someone explain to me the logic in hiring Mr. Siciliano versus going outside the fam and hiring a QB coach with more experience?
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Funny you should bring up loeffler. Henne barely progressed at all from his first to fourth year. You could hear gruden talking about his progression during mnf, how he couldn't do this or that coming out of college, but now here he is doing in on the biggest stage.

I'm not sure tebow looks much different, does he? Even his 2nd biggest cheerleader, danielson, has pointed this out and had side by side 08/09 video of tebow throws to prove it.

Tebow's a warrior, but to scouts, he's still a wildcat back who can pass well.
 
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jwinslow;1571834; said:
Funny you should bring up loeffler. Henne barely progressed at all from his first to fourth year. You could hear gruden talking about his progression during mnf, how he couldn't do this or that coming out of college, but now here he is doing in on the biggest stage.

I'm not sure tebow looks much different, does he? Even his 2nd biggest cheerleader, danielson, has pointed this out and had side by side 08/09 video of tebow throws to prove it.

Tebow's a warrior, but to scouts, he's still a wildcat back who can pass well.
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That and the fact that everyone (not necessarily on this board) who gets on Bollman for not doing much in the NFL needs to realize Loeffler 'led' the QBs for one of the worst teams in history.
 
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jwinslow;1571834; said:
Funny you should bring up loeffler. Henne barely progressed at all from his first to fourth year. You could hear gruden talking about his progression during mnf, how he couldn't do this or that coming out of college, but now here he is doing in on the biggest stage.

I'm not sure tebow looks much different, does he? Even his 2nd biggest cheerleader, danielson, has pointed this out and had side by side 08/09 video of tebow throws to prove it.

Tebow's a warrior, but to scouts, he's still a wildcat back who can pass well.
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3 out of 4 National Titles maybe? This is exactly what I'm talking about...UF isn't developing Tim to be an NFL QB, they're using him for the betterment of the team to win championships. Since when did tOSU put championships on the backburner to help an amazing athlete become a productive NFL player?

There are more productive ways to use Terrelle. 4 wide and asking him to pick apart a defense isn't one.
 
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3 out of 4 National Titles maybe? This is exactly what I'm talking about...UF isn't developing Tim to be an NFL QB
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Actually, that's precisely why Loeffler was brought to Florida this past offseason, and he's engineered very little if any change.
 
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jwinslow;1571852; said:
Actually, that's precisely why Loeffler was brought to Florida this past offseason, and he's engineered very little if any change.
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On the surface maybe. Urban Meyer isn't an idiot though..he knows where his bread and butter is at. Was it truly for Tim, or for the next QB who isn't a 6'3 240lb Fullback playing QB?? I haven't exactly seen a ton of Tim under center like talked about in pre-season....admitedly, I didn't see the Arkansas game, so maybe he was play-actioning out of the I set, but I doubt it.
 
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On the surface maybe. Urban Meyer isn't an idiot though..he knows where his bread and butter is at.
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I didn't say he was, but that was the premise of the hire
Was it truly for Tim, or for the next QB who isn't a 6'3 240lb Fullback playing QB??
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Possibly, but now you're in direct contrast with your earlier post about Urban making CFB a priority, not the NFL :p
 
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Possibly, but now you're in direct contrast with your earlier post about Urban making CFB a priority, not the NFL :p
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I don't follow. My point is, the next QB will probably need to be more of a QB than Tim, so the hire makes sense for down the road. The offense looks exactly like Mullen's offense from last year from what I've seen....I don't think Meyer needs any outside help to continue the offense from last year...

Meyer is smart enough to know the offense they are currently operating only works with very special players...The only 2 in college capable of it now are Tebow and Locker, and even that is debateable as Tebow has already been banged up this year and Locker missed most of last year with an injury. I expect the Loeffler hire to pay dividends next year when Meyer reduces the amount of contact on his QB and looks for a more traditional spread QB.
 
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I don't follow.
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Dayton - UF hires great, proven QB coach. OSU hires a buddy/nobody.
Me - UF's QB coach hasn't really developed his QBs into better passers lately.
You - They're out to win NCs, not produce NFL QBs.
Me - Loeffler was brought in to bring pro style coaching to the program.
You - They're out to win the NC this year, then produce better passers next year.
Me - That's not quite what you said earlier :p
Meyer is smart enough to know the offense they are currently operating only works with very special players...The only 2 in college capable of it now are Tebow and Locker, and even that is debateable as Tebow has already been banged up this year and Locker missed most of last year with an injury.
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There are only 2 who seem capable of running it, but one of them is a viking :wink:
 
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