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Former QB Coach Nick Siciliano (official thread)

muffler dragon;1570989; said:
I wouldn't have thought that was the case with Joe Daniels in the same position. Now, if it's more of an understudy thing; then I guess I can understand. Ultimately, I'm confused, and I was posting in this thread in the hopes of more knowledgeable people enlightening me.

Basically, it is an understudy thing. Daniels' health problems did not start with the heart attack before the 2008 season, and a succession plan has been in place for awhile. Siciliano has worked pretty much with the QBs since 2005. no matter what his official title was.
 
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TheStoicPaisano;1570995; said:
Basically, it is an understudy thing. Daniels' health problems did not start with the heart attack before the 2008 season, and a succession plan has been in place for awhile. Siciliano has worked pretty much with the QBs since 2005. no matter what his official title was.

Thanks for the insight.
 
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muffler dragon;1570968; said:
Good for you.

I'm not questioning Tressel's judgment. I'm asking what, if anything, Coach Siciliano has done or not done to this point. When I look at his resume, I have to admit that there is a glaring omission of anything related to the QB position except for him playing it in highschool.

Agreed. Apparently being a wide receivers coach and then QB coach at North Carolina A&T State University qualifies you succeed Joe Daniels at Ohio State. The only qualification is that he was a student coach at Youngstown under Tressel, and that's quite disheartening. I have no idea what Siciliano does or does not do with the team, but I haven't really seen improvement in Terrelle Pryor since game #1 of last year.

UCLA and Duke are throwing around proven names like Chow and Cutcliffe. Maybe Siciliano can show me the proof, but so far he hasn't shown much of anything.
 
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MaxBuck;1570927; said:
Much as I admire Coach Tressel, and want him to spend the remainder of his coaching career at the helm of the Buckeyes, this answer fails to assuage me.

Unless MaxBuck is the BP alias for Gene Smith, I don't think Tressel or Siciliano or either of their credentials or opinions is particularly beholden to your, uh, mollification.
 
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BayBuck;1571195; said:
Unless MaxBuck is the BP alias for Gene Smith, I don't think Tressel or Siciliano or either of their credentials or opinions is particularly beholden to your, uh, mollification.
Nor should they be. But as a fan, I think I'm entitled to question the qualifications and abilities of a staff member - so long as I do it politely, and without any hidden agenda.

BTW, let me know if you want to improve your seating for next season. Just sayin'.
 
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Poe McKnoe;1571183; said:
Agreed. Apparently being a wide receivers coach and then QB coach at North Carolina A&T State University qualifies you succeed Joe Daniels at Ohio State. The only qualification is that he was a student coach at Youngstown under Tressel, and that's quite disheartening. I have no idea what Siciliano does or does not do with the team, but I haven't really seen improvement in Terrelle Pryor since game #1 of last year.

UCLA and Duke are throwing around proven names like Chow and Cutcliffe. Maybe Siciliano can show me the proof, but so far he hasn't shown much of anything.

Well, apparently being a Grad Assistant at Akron and QB coach at Miami (OH) also qualifies one to be a QB coach at Ohio State...



By the way, Im talking about Jim Tressel, who during his stint as QB/RB coach he coached up Mike Tomczak and Keith Byars (Heisman finalist).

I don't think questioning a position coach's resume tells much.
 
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"Trust the coaches!"
If we can question the decisions of the President of the United States, why can't we question a coaches hire? We see for ourselves the "product" put on the field every Saturday.
Are we satisfied with the "product"?
 
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SEREbuckeye;1571220; said:
Well, apparently being a Grad Assistant at Akron and QB coach at Miami (OH) also qualifies one to be a QB coach at Ohio State...



By the way, Im talking about Jim Tressel, who during his stint as QB/RB coach he coached up Mike Tomczak and Keith Byars (Heisman finalist).

I don't think questioning a position coach's resume tells much.

FWIW, Coach Tressel also lettered four years at the QB position:

coachtressel.com: Coach Tressel

A 1971 Berea High graduate, Tressel played for his father at Baldwin Wallace, earning four letters at quarterback and winning all-conference honors as a senior in 1974. He graduated cum laude in 1975 with a degree in education.

IMHO, that's a LOT different than playing the position in HS only. Just sayin'...
 
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muffler dragon;1571281; said:
FWIW, Coach Tressel also lettered four years at the QB position:

coachtressel.com: Coach Tressel



IMHO, that's a LOT different than playing the position in HS only. Just sayin'...

What you were "just sayin" was questioning the coach's resume as a coach, not as a player.

Did you also question the hiring of Tressel because the only head coaching he had done was at a 1aa school?

Joe Daniels actually played running back in college but it didnt stop him from coaching up the likes of Dan Marino, Andre Reed, and Troy Smith. Just sayin...
 
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TheStoicPaisano;1571340; said:
Or take a look at UC for another guy who was handed the QB coach slot there for the first time in his coaching career.

::GASP:: Are you trying to tell me a guy that played DB in college, and has coached only WR's and RB's at small schools was hired by a BCS school and has coached up a Heisman contending QB??

Nooooo....Cant be!
 
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SEREbuckeye;1571334; said:
What you were "just sayin" was questioning the coach's resume as a coach, not as a player.

You're the one who brought Tressel's resume up. He played it, lettered at it, and received honors in the position. Coach Siciliano has not. That's a huge difference to me.

SERE said:
Did you also question the hiring of Tressel because the only head coaching he had done was at a 1aa school?

Red herring. Nice try though.

SERE said:
Joe Daniels actually played running back in college but it didnt stop him from coaching up the likes of Dan Marino, Andre Reed, and Troy Smith. Just sayin...

I'm not talking about Joe Daniels. I wasn't even talking about Jim Tressel. I've been talking about Nick Siciliano the whole time. Do you have anything to offer with regards to what he has/has not done so far?
 
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muffler dragon;1571348; said:
I'm not talking about Joe Daniels. I wasn't even talking about Jim Tressel. I've been talking about Nick Siciliano the whole time. Do you have anything to offer with regards to what he has/has not done so far?


Seems like the guy has been with the OSU program and working with the QB's since before the 05 season...

Hmmm....I wonder who our QB was in 05? God, what was his name? Didn't he get a Heisman and Davy O'Brien as well as take us to the National Title game?

How about that other guy that got us to the National Title game in 07?

Man...I wonder who was helping coach up these guys during there years at OSU? I would CERTAINLY want him as a QB coach!
 
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jwinslow;1571349; said:
I don't really care whether you questioned Tressel, but most of America did for that very reason.

Not sure what you're trying to present Josh, but this has nothing to do with what I raised initially. It's still a red herring according to the initial premise.

SEREbuckeye;1571354; said:
Seems like the guy has been with the OSU program and working with the QB's since before the 05 season...

Hmmm....I wonder who our QB was in 05? God, what was his name? Didn't he get a Heisman and Davy O'Brien as well as take us to the National Title game?

How about that other guy that got us to the National Title game in 07?

Man...I wonder who was helping coach up these guys during there years at OSU? I would CERTAINLY want him as a QB coach!

Wow! What a tremendous post. :shake:

If one were to peruse back through this thread; then one might see that Stoic mentioned the background to Coach Siciliano's tutelage, timing, and so forth. If you had already known that; then kudos to you. I did not. Furthermore, I've done nothing to warrant the flippant attitude from you. I never brought up Coach Tressel; you did. There's a LOT of things that you've brought up in short order that have little to no relevance to my initial inquiry.
 
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