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Football Budgets as a Percentage of Overall University Budgets

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If you're wondering, Florida generally spends about $25 million or so on football every year. $40+ million dollars a year is nothing to sneeze at; granted, a large chunk of it ends up paying the bills for all the other sports, but most years that still leaves a fairly large chunk left over to go to the academic side.

Edit: Generally $5-10 million a year goes to the academic side of the school, which is small but adds up over time, especially when you consider that the school also doesn't have to pay for any other athletics, which most schools do.
 
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Gatormaniac;2087766; said:
(Incidentally, there's a huge variance in the B1G research budgets. OSU, Michigan, and Wisconsin are putting serious money towards it, while some of the others are just plain sad. Indiana in particular is pathetic - if friggin' Auburn has a larger budget for research than you....)
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Indiana's lack of research money is deceptive. It is the state's fine arts and commerce school, while Purdue is the science and engineering school. IU's music department is top notch and the facilities for art students are absolutely top drawer -- but you don't draw many grants for fugues and abstract paintings.

As someone who is quick to point out the academic standings of Big 10 schools, I also want to state that research revenue does not guarantee a school's commitment to quality teaching.

AND, contrary to commonly held belief, there is no correlation between gifting to a school and it's athletic program. This has been tested numerous times with the same result. The people who give to the endowment fund are not necessarily fans of the sports teams. The two smallest schools in the Big 10 consortium, Northwestern and Chicago, have two of the biggest endowments -- and if done on a per alum basis, the two biggest.
 
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cincibuck said:
Indiana's lack of research money is deceptive. It is the state's fine arts and commerce school, while Purdue is the science and engineering school. IU's music department is top notch and the facilities for art students are absolutely top drawer -- but you don't draw many grants for fugues and abstract paintings.

As someone who is quick to point out the academic standings of Big 10 schools, I also want to state that research revenue does not guarantee a school's commitment to quality teaching.

AND, contrary to commonly held belief, there is no correlation between gifting to a school and it's athletic program. This has been tested numerous times with the same result. The people who give to the endowment fund are not necessarily fans of the sports teams. The two smallest schools in the Big 10 consortium, Northwestern and Chicago, have two of the biggest endowments -- and if done on a per alum basis, the two biggest.
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Does IU's School of Medicine, based out of its Indianapolis campus, get included in the research numbers? One of the top medical schools in the nation.

And IU Health is the state's go-to health system- it's name is plastered on almost every ambulance and hospital now.
 
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OHSportsFan9;2087938; said:
Does IU's School of Medicine, based out of its Indianapolis campus, get included in the research numbers? One of the top medical schools in the nation.

And IU Health is the state's go-to health system- it's name is plastered on almost every ambulance and hospital now.
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Don't know. I would have thought that the med school would be shared with Purdue, or Purdue governed as they are clearly the science school.
 
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cincibuck;2087842; said:
Indiana's lack of research money is deceptive. It is the state's fine arts and commerce school, while Purdue is the science and engineering school. IU's music department is top notch and the facilities for art students are absolutely top drawer -- but you don't draw many grants for fugues and abstract paintings.

As someone who is quick to point out the academic standings of Big 10 schools, I also want to state that research revenue does not guarantee a school's commitment to quality teaching.

AND, contrary to commonly held belief, there is no correlation between gifting to a school and it's athletic program. This has been tested numerous times with the same result. The people who give to the endowment fund are not necessarily fans of the sports teams. The two smallest schools in the Big 10 consortium, Northwestern and Chicago, have two of the biggest endowments -- and if done on a per alum basis, the two biggest.
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Research revenue doesn't guarantee a commitment to quality teaching, but it's probably strongly correlated and certainly easier to measure. As far as slamming Indiana's research numbers, well, I can certainly understand that they're playing Georgia to Purdue's Georgia Tech, but they still should be pulling down more research dollars than Auburn. Adding in the medical school improves matters but it's still by far the lowest B1G school by that measure. (And I'm not sure the medical school should be counted for them, at least not exclusively, as the campus it's in seems to be a joint Purdue/Indiana Frankencampus)
 
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Gatormaniac;2088029; said:
Research revenue doesn't guarantee a commitment to quality teaching, but it's probably strongly correlated and certainly easier to measure. As far as slamming Indiana's research numbers, well, I can certainly understand that they're playing Georgia to Purdue's Georgia Tech, but they still should be pulling down more research dollars than Auburn. Adding in the medical school improves matters but it's still by far the lowest B1G school by that measure. (And I'm not sure the medical school should be counted for them, at least not exclusively, as the campus it's in seems to be a joint Purdue/Indiana Frankencampus)
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I'm not sure whether the medical campus actually counts towards Indiana's research dollars or not, but there would be no reason for any of the money to count towards Purdue, because, as I stated in the post above yours, Purdue has nothing to do with the medical campus.
 
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Purdue has engineering and technical programs at the same campus; the figures I was looking at didn't separate Indiana's medical school from the rest of it. Most of the research dollars probably flow to the medical center, but probably not all.

(Also, during lunch I'd opened a reply to Muck and went looking for the figures, so I hadn't seen your post at that point.)
 
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