Football Budgets as a Percentage of Overall University Budgets

[ORD_Buckeye]

The Wall Street Journal looked at 45 prominent programs.

LSU and Alabama had the largest football budgets relative to their universities' overall budgets and the only two programs in double digits.

SEC!SEC!SEC! took the top (i.e. worst) four and 8 of the top 9 spots.

Other than Corn Aggy, Sparty (2%) was the worst Big Ten school, and they were 21st and had both the 13th largest overall budget and 13th largest football budget. All the other Big Ten schools ranked higher for their university budgets than their football budgets (i.e. Ohio State 4th largest university budget and 9th largest football budget).

Just another bit of evidence that all adds up to how out of whack the priorities are in the SEC!SEC!SEC!.

And further evidence that--outside of football--Nebraska is just not a good fit with the other Big Ten schools.

 

[BigWoof31]

Just another bit of evidence that all adds up to how out of whack the priorities are in the SEC!SEC!SEC!.

I'm not going to accept snarky scorn from a program that just gave Urban Meyer a 4 million dollar a year contract and whose combined assistant comp plans will exceeed 3.75 million.

You of all people lecture the little guys on making a big time investment in the football program. The SEC has done it and so have you.

 

[Buckeye86]

I'm not going to accept snarky scorn from a program that just gave Urban Meyer a 4 million dollar a year contract and whose combined assistant comp plans will exceeed 3.75 million.

You of all people lecture the little guys on making a big time investment in the football program. The SEC has done it and so have you.

I think you are missing the point.

Ohio State is a real university that spends a huge amount of money on research and other pursuits outside of the athletic realm.

The implication here is that SEC schools are shitty universities that spend a huge amount of money on their football programs and not much else.

So you see, it is irrelevant how much we just spent on our new coaching staff because we also spend tens of millions (possibly a lot more?) of dollars on research each year as well.

 

[BengalsAndBucks]

I believe those were actually revenue's for the University vs the football program. I would be interested to see how Campus Revenue is defined, considering Michigan's is 6 billion... that seems like an endowment number.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I think you are missing the point.

Ohio State is a real university that spends a huge amount of money on research and other pursuits outside of the athletic realm.

The implication here is that SEC schools are shitty universities that spend a huge amount of money on their football programs and not much else.

So you see, it is irrelevant how much we just spent on our new coaching staff because we also spends tens of millions (possibly a lot more?) of dollars on research each year as well.

Had woof attended a B1G University (besides Nebraska), he'd have understood that.

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

That link/table compares revenues for overall Universities vs. their respective football programs.

The Journal looked at the total annual campus revenues reported by 45 major-conference schools and determined how much of that was generated by football. Here's a breakdown of the schools in the sample. Click on column headers to sort.

Isn't it a stretch to say revenue = budgets, ORD?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I'm not going to accept snarky scorn from a program that just gave Urban Meyer a 4 million dollar a year contract and whose combined assistant comp plans will exceeed 3.75 million.

You of all people lecture the little guys on making a big time investment in the football program. The SEC has done it and so have you.

Apples and Oranges. I'm worried by the escalating arms race both in coaching salaries and in overall football expenditures and facilities. I don't think it's a healthy trend for higher education.

That being said, there is something fundamentally different in the priorities of Ohio State and Michigan (football budgets <1% of the overall university budget) and Alabama and LSU (>11%). Essentially, it comes down to this. We can afford it without corrupting the overall university's mission and budget priorities.

Some of these SEC schools are akin to a welfare queen in public housing with shiny Cadillac to impress people.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

I believe those were actually revenue's for the University vs the football program. I would be interested to see how Campus Revenue is defined, considering Michigan's is 6 billion... that seems like an endowment number.

It's the university's annual operating budget, which in Michigan's case closely approximates their endowment. In Ohio State's case, I know the 4B to be the operating budget versus the 2B endowment.

 

[knapplc]

RE: ORD's opinion of Nebraska...

 

[BUCKYLE]

RE: ORD's opinion of Nebraska...

Was that gif made on a typewriter?

 

[BigWoof31]

Had woof attended a B1G University (besides Nebraska), he'd have understood that.

So you're suggesting the only way to become a legitimate university is to invest in a medical school, a larger engineering program and double our enrollment? I pick these three areas because they are advantages OSU has over Georgia.
If that's your point, that let's have that debate. But UGA athletics are a self sustaining entity exceeding a billion in revenue. Other SEC schools are close to that.
We aren't borrowing from faculty expeditures or state funding to rebuild a weightroom?

This is just a poorly executed attempt to call us dumb hicks.
You are better served to copy and paste youtube comments in a seperate thread and have a good laugh at the Harvey Updykes of the world.

 

[knapplc]

By the way, does anyone want to explain to Captain Derp that Revenue does not equal Budget?

This chart doesn't show what the thread title says it shows. It shows how much money each campus makes, and what percentage of that income is derived from football. In short, it explains which brands are most marketable - something that is a good thing, not a bad thing.

Nebraska's place in the top ten of football revenue explains why it was courted into the Big Ten.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

So you're suggesting the only way to become a legitimate university is to invest in a medical school, a larger engineering program and double our enrollment? I pick these three areas because they are advantages OSU has over Georgia.
If that's your point, that let's have that debate. But UGA athletics are a self sustaining entity exceeding a billion in revenue. Other SEC schools are close to that.
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If you think those are the only three things that separate the average SEC school from the average Big Ten school, you're very mistaken. And FWIW, I actually put UGA into the three school club of SEC universities that are above and beyond their conference mates.

If that's your point, that let's have that debate. But UGA athletics are a self sustaining entity exceeding a billion in revenue. Other SEC schools are close to that.
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[BB73]

Apparently Woof wasn't as fascinated as I was to learn that this year's Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl, along with being the first-ever bowl to have teams with combined losing records, also matched the second and third largest revenue producing universities in the country.

 

[BUCKYLE]

So you're suggesting the only way to become a legitimate university is to invest in a medical school, a larger engineering program and double our enrollment? I pick these three areas because they are advantages OSU has over Georgia.
If that's your point, that let's have that debate. But UGA athletics are a self sustaining entity exceeding a billion in revenue. Other SEC schools are close to that.
We aren't borrowing from faculty expeditures or state funding to rebuild a weightroom?

This is just a poorly executed attempt to call us dumb hicks.
You are better served to copy and paste youtube comments in a seperate thread and have a good laugh at the Harvey Updykes of the world.

I was joking, but I think we can all agree on Auburn being a fine fucking academic institution.