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Florida State Seminoles (official thread)

'Noles want NCAA to pay bills in cheating probe - FOX Sports on MSN
Updated: July 24, 2009, 7:12 PM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Florida State is back in court — suing the NCAA.
The school said Friday its wants the NCAA to pay its legal fees and other costs incurred in a suit filed against the university and the athletic governing body for failing to comply with Florida's public records law.

General counsel Betty Steffen said it has been technically impossible for the school to make records in the case public because an NCAA Web site prohibits downloading or printing.

The lawsuit to force the release of documents in the university's appeal of some NCAA sanctions in an academic cheating case is scheduled for a two-day hearing beginning Aug. 5.

The Associated Press and other newspaper and broadcast companies are suing the school and NCAA.
That's certainly not going to add any leniency to this debacle...
 
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jwinslow;1506577; said:
'Noles want NCAA to pay bills in cheating probe - FOX Sports on MSNThat's certainly not going to add any leniency to this debacle...

It's as if God answered every prayer on this one. Rather than go quietly into the night and let the massive cheating scandal lie, FSU has managed to keep it in the news for months and months. It was only AFTER the appeal that the lazy press finally figured out what had happened and how many athletes were involved.

Now, it is better understood, the image of FSU as dirty is better planted in people's minds, and the win-at-all-cost Bowden mentality displayed by their decision to happily let the track team lose the NCAA Championship if Bowden keeps his wins. Even better, you have the President of FSU and Bowden running around saying that even though they used athletes otherwise academically ineligible to play (and kept eligible only by virtue of cheating led by FSU employees), as long as Bowden did not know he should keep the wins.

I mean, why would using ineligible starters help you Bobbah??

Win, win, and win.
 
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Gatorubet;1506608; said:
It's as if God answered every prayer on this one. Rather than go quietly into the night and let the massive cheating scandal lie, FSU has managed to keep it in the news for months and months. It was only AFTER the appeal that the lazy press finally figured out what had happened and how many athletes were involved.

Now, it is better understood, the image of FSU as dirty is better planted in people's minds, and the win-at-all-cost Bowden mentality displayed by their decision to happily let the track team lose the NCAA Championship if Bowden keeps his wins. Even better, you have the President of FSU and Bowden running around saying that even though they used athletes otherwise academically ineligible to play (and kept eligible only by virtue of cheating led by FSU employees), as long as Bowden did not know he should keep the wins.

I mean, why would using ineligible starters help you Bobbah??

Win, win, and win.

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Gatorubet;1506608; said:
It's as if God answered every prayer on this one. Rather than go quietly into the night and let the massive cheating scandal lie, FSU has managed to keep it in the news for months and months. It was only AFTER the appeal that the lazy press finally figured out what had happened and how many athletes were involved.

Now, it is better understood, the image of FSU as dirty is better planted in people's minds, and the win-at-all-cost Bowden mentality displayed by their decision to happily let the track team lose the NCAA Championship if Bowden keeps his wins. Even better, you have the President of FSU and Bowden running around saying that even though they used athletes otherwise academically ineligible to play (and kept eligible only by virtue of cheating led by FSU employees), as long as Bowden did not know he should keep the wins.

I mean, why would using ineligible starters help you Bobbah??

Win, win, and win.

Wow. If there is a positive for FSU in this I guess it could be that at least they aren't trying to deny it at all. We did it, just let us keep our wins because Bobby is a good guy.
 
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ysubuck;1506633; said:
We did it, just let us keep our wins because Bobby is a good guy.

That is where this breaks down. Bowden has always had a win at all costs program. "warsaw Rules." "Pray for a misdemeanor." FSU even had to pass the "Deion" rule because Deion Sanders did not go to a single class his last semester of football. After finals for the Fall 88 semester ended, the "Supercomputer" crashed during grading posting period at FSU. Back in 1988, FSU was using the computer to post grades for the first time where students can retrieve their grades via an audio system via telephone. However, the system crashing meant that Deion was eligible until the day after the Sugar Bowl when the computer came back on line.

When the grades were recorded, Deion had not taken a single one of his finals for the Fall 88 semester. Then again, he had not been going to class, so that was not a shocker. :slappy:

The FSU Board of Regents was forced to pass a mandatory rule that all students (read football players) must attend their finals to be eligible for any student activities during any break periods and/or the next semester.
 
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Gatorubet;1506647; said:
The FSU Board of Regents was forced to pass a mandatory rule that all students (read football players) must attend their finals to be eligible for any student activities during any break periods and/or the next semester.


This came back to bite them in the ass in 2002. Prior to the Sugar bowl - Chris Rix (idiot) slept in for a final and had to sit out the Sugar Bowl against UGA.
 
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DvoRichardson to MLB

TALLAHASSEE, Fla.- Former Lee County High School star D'Vontrey
Richardson's football career at Florida State is over.

That's according to Richardson's guardian, Steve Glover, who confirmed to
The Herald late Wednesday that the current two-sport FSU athlete will instead
sign a minor-league contract with the Milwaukee Brewers as early as today.
 
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BigWoof31;1506665; said:
This came back to bite them in the ass in 2002. Prior to the Sugar bowl - Chris Rix (idiot) slept in for a final and had to sit out the Sugar Bowl against UGA.
I don't have a rooting interest in either team, but there are two things about this bowl game I remember as well as any bowl game involving Ohio State, because of how bizarre they were.

#1 - Rix missing the final, making him ineligible for the Sugar Bowl, coupled with Adrian McPherson being dismissed from the team over Thanksgiving, meant FSU had to start WR Fabian Walker at QB. When that didn't work, FSU tried Anquan Boldin at QB instead, who wound up not being half bad. Problem for Boldin was that he didn't have much to work with since he didn't have a single receiver as good as himself to throw to.

#2 - During the pregame interview with Bowden and Richt, Bowden essentially divulges the entire gameplan live on national TV, and right in front of Richt, in a rambling interview, and further caps it off by saying "I know Mark so well that I can predict when he's going to run the out." When it was Richt's turn to speak, all he said was something to the effect of, "I'm not going to talk about our gameplan, but I guess we'd better run the out-and-up."

:slappy:
 
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Frickin' Florida legal types, always using that word 'emasculate'. :wink2:

CBS

Judge signs order to release FSU documents

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- The NCAA must release documents on Florida State's appeal of an academic cheating penalty, a Florida judge ruled Friday, noting that the NCAA's rationale for keeping the documents secret would "emasculate" the state's broad public access laws.

Circuit Judge John C. Cooper ordered that the copies be turned over to the Associated Press and other media, which filed a public records lawsuit.

The documents focus on Florida State's appeal of a plan to strip coaches and athletes of wins in 10 sports, including 14 from football coach Bobby Bowden. It would dim Bowden's chances of surpassing Penn State's Joe Paterno for most wins by a major college coach. Bowden has 382 victories -- one behind Paterno.

Karen Kaiser, an attorney for the AP, said the news organization is "thrilled with the court's decision, which upholds the right of the people to access important public documents such as these. We look forward to receiving the documents that the court has said we are entitled to receive."

The NCAA in a statement said it is reviewing the court's order and discussing its options. It plans to appeal to a state appeals court and ask to block the release until it can rule. Florida State had no immediate comment.

The news organizations sued for access to records that include the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions' response to Florida State's appeal.
The school is being penalized because 61 athletes in several sports received improper help from staffers who gave them answers to an online music test or typed papers for them.

The media lawsuit accused the NCAA, Florida State, school officials and a law firm working for the university of participating in "a scheme created to avoid public access."

The NCAA had posted documents about the scandal on a secured website for FSU lawyers to read. Because FSU and its attorneys never had physical control of the documents, the school and the NCAA argued that they were not subject to Florida's broad public records law.

Cont'd ...
 
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FSU's continued attempt to keep its NCAA appeal of Bobbah's lost wins hidden from the Florida Public Records disclosure laws is detailed at this link.

Here is what I found funny in the court's findings: "At the time the transcript of the June 2 Response was created, FSU had not yet discovered that the capacity existed to "print screen" for documents posted to the Custodial Site." :slappy:

Only the best and brightest get to represent the Mustard and Ketchup at high dollar hourly fees. :lol:
 
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