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Who Is The Craziest Poster on BWI

  • Obliviax

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • MaryluvzLions

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • Bushwood CC

    Votes: 7 13.5%

  • Sgt Carter

    Votes: 8 15.4%

  • 9fold

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • lubrano

    Votes: 21 40.4%

  • Mack_Daddy

    Votes: 13 25.0%
  • Total voters
    52
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osugrad21;2178469; said:
Moved this discussion to the Open Forum.

At this point, its like the $1 throw-a-dart game where you win a Bon Jovi poster or a roach clip feather.

Last year, tOSU fans were in the vat of acid...yeah, I know, child molestation takes it up a notch, blah blah...

But, 99% also defended EVERYTHING at the point...then had a slight separation once JT MAY have messed up...then...well ummm....

Yay for Urban!!

Seriously. Multiple generations were brought up under 'JOEPA'

Smirk, smile...be an asshole. But really...this is a damn shame. The same way JT dumped some of us on our head...I can't imagine this nightmare.
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as a general sentiment I agree with this. however, by and large, most people here, once the facts were known, had no illusions that JT didn't do anything wrong. this happy valley bunch doesn't fit that mold.

secondly, the reason that JT did why he did will always be argued. did he do it for altruistic reasons like he claimed (player safety, fbi investigation ect...), or did he do it to try and cash in on a big season in 2010? that's at least an argument that could be had. psu folks certainly don't have that.
 
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tsteele316;2178507; said:
this happy valley bunch doesn't fit that mold.
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The one percent of PSU folks who actually post on a message board...

tsteele316;2178507; said:
secondly, the reason that JT did why he did will always be argued. did he do it for altruistic reasons like he claimed (player safety, fbi investigation ect...), or did he do it to try and cash in on a big season in 2010? that's at least an argument that could be had. psu folks certainly don't have that.
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Sorry. Disagree. Can't/Won't bash players here...but this was not a surprise. I was about as big of a JT homer as possible but he also had a very blind eye. The only shock was that JT was 'bold' enough to use University email to discuss any part of it.
 
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osugrad21;2178571; said:
The one percent of PSU folks who actually post on a message board...
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I do think the PSU situation runs much deeper than the loony bin over on BWI when you consider that the alumni voted in Lubrano for the board of trustees, the student riots, the Times' interviews with PSU alumni in SC yesterday, the blind support for him by 99.9% of the people at the game following his firing.

Ohio State trustees weren't on BP supporting Tressel. Our students didn't riot when he was fired. Even on a message board centered on the football program, we had a much more vigorous--and often contentious--debate about Tressel, his actions and the appropriate university/ncaa response over issues that weren't a hundredth as severe as what went on at ped aggy.

I guess I understand where you're coming from on one level. On the other hand, I would counter that what's been shown to be the overwhelming mentality of their alumni and fans is reflected on that message board. BWI might be the tip of the crazy spear, but it's a long spear, and what went on throughout that entire university transcends anything that's happened in university history. Long story short, I agree that there are plenty of non kool-aid drinking ped aggy alums, but until they take the narrative back from the crazies, I don't feel hypocritical about painting with a broad brush.

Just my two cents.
 
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Lubrano made the BOT? Holly f...n Christo! Forget about the statue going anywhere. They'll just paint over some stuff and it will be "business as usual".The NCAA needs to bring the hammer down on this sham!
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2178602; said:
I do think the PSU situation runs much deeper than the loony bin over on BWI when you consider that the alumni voted in Lubrano for the board of trustees, the student riots, the Times' interviews with PSU alumni in SC yesterday, the blind support for him by 99.9% of the people at the game following his firing.

Ohio State trustees weren't on BP supporting Tressel. Our students didn't riot when he was fired. Even on a message board centered on the football program, we had a much more vigorous--and often contentious--debate about Tressel, his actions and the appropriate university/ncaa response over issues that weren't a hundredth as severe as what went on at ped aggy.

I guess I understand where you're coming from on one level. On the other hand, I would counter that what's been shown to be the overwhelming mentality of their alumni and fans is reflected on that message board. BWI might be the tip of the crazy spear, but it's a long spear, and what went on throughout that entire university transcends anything that's happened in university history. Long story short, I agree that there are plenty of non kool-aid drinking ped aggy alums, but until they take the narrative back from the crazies, I don't feel hypocritical about painting with a broad brush.

Just my two cents.
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I can respect that point of view. My only rebuttal would be JTs decade does not compare to Joe's 5 decades. Most of the PSU fanbase has only known one way...and they were convinced, like Rick Reilly says, that it was the best and most scrupulous way. Everyone was fooled...we had a decade crash down on us. I can't imagine a lifetime.
 
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EDH85 making a strong run. Could be dark horse.
The reports findings seem to be a series of assumptions and interpretations of a set of very vague evidence. I can't imagine half of what is in that report would be admissable in court. Read below my one sig comment about the Freeh report. He introduces a fact not supported by evidence into the report. He just slips it in. It is truly unbelievable. I wonder if Freeh will make himself available to answer questions about this report.
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There has to be run on aluminum foil in Ped State land. I have never read such batshit crazy, made up stuff in my life. Those few who are still clinging to JoePeds shirt tails and disregarding any and all reality were JoePed isn't a saint really should be institutionalized or they might end up hurting people.
 
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It's simply astonishing the echo chamber that the internet is. One idea takes hold and if it happens to be in line with what you already want to believe you run with it.

Here is a response from theBuckeyeBattleCry.com (which is, obviously, not affiliated with BWI in any way):

Freeh's analysis is just that: Freeh's analysis. It is not evidence; nor does it have any legal power. The more I hear, the more it sounds kinda like an opinion piece. What is most disturbing is the way Freeh's conclusions are being accepted as the final word as to what actually ocurred.
The idea that Joe Paterno would engage in a cover-up is ludicrous. And its easy to hang blame on a dead man. In time, we'll get to Freeh's agenda; but meanwhile, lets not all jump on his band wagon just yet. Lets not take down his statue, or run to be first to proclaim him a devil. There are real trials yet to come, with real evidence to be considered.
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ORD_Buckeye;2178602; said:
I do think the PSU situation runs much deeper than the loony bin over on BWI when you consider that the alumni voted in Lubrano for the board of trustees, the student riots, the Times' interviews with PSU alumni in SC yesterday, the blind support for him by 99.9% of the people at the game following his firing.

Ohio State trustees weren't on BP supporting Tressel. Our students didn't riot when he was fired. Even on a message board centered on the football program, we had a much more vigorous--and often contentious--debate about Tressel, his actions and the appropriate university/ncaa response over issues that weren't a hundredth as severe as what went on at ped aggy.

I guess I understand where you're coming from on one level. On the other hand, I would counter that what's been shown to be the overwhelming mentality of their alumni and fans is reflected on that message board. BWI might be the tip of the crazy spear, but it's a long spear, and what went on throughout that entire university transcends anything that's happened in university history. Long story short, I agree that there are plenty of non kool-aid drinking ped aggy alums, but until they take the narrative back from the crazies, I don't feel hypocritical about painting with a broad brush.

Just my two cents.
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And even then his most ardent supporters admitted what he had done was incorrect in both a moral and legal (at least in terms of the NCAA regs) stance.

This goes far beyond anything Tressel did or didn't do and this shows a very set and very warped mindset on the side of the Ped Staters.
 
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