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ESPN Top 10 Teams

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souL said:
What makes them any better? Last year they had reliable defensive starters. Last year their offense was almost the same personnel, granted they're 1 year older now. The Pac-10 hasn't gotten any better, that's for sure. They had a lot more close games this year than last, and v. virtually the same opponents. Look what they did in the National Championship game last year... it was tremendous. If they paste Texas the way they pasted OU last year, I'll buy it.

Oh, and the best team I'VE seen (21 years old, mind you) was the '94 PSU team.
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well i dont see them pasting texas like choklahoma but i see them winning. i figured USC to win ina rout last year over choklahoma anyways. they were a very overrated team. texas's team is much better than the OU team from last year. USC has evolved some new offensive weapons this year and everybody's numbers on offense have improved. i believe leinart's numbers are better than they were last year when he won the heisman but you would have to check and make sure on that one. defensively bing is a monster at safety. they lost some quality LBs but the current ones are not bad and have done a good job. i have no idea how many starters will play in the game vs texas but if USC has a majority of them playing id watch out. last year USC barely beat UCLA. this year UCLA is a much better team and USC just obliterated them.
 
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Jeffcat said:
i have not forgot one bit. but other people can easily make the argument that we almost lost how many games that year as well? hell im a buckeye fan but we SHOULD have lost to cincinnati. if that receiver catches that ball we lose. we definitely lucked out there.
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Yeah, and if the ND defender turns around and knocks the ball down like he should have on that 61-yard pass to Dwayne Jarrett on fourth-and-9, then USC would've lost...the Trojans definitely lucked out.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Yeah, and if the ND defender turns around and knocks the ball down like he should have on that 61-yard pass to Dwayne Jarrett on fourth-and-9, then USC would've lost...the Trojans definitely lucked out.
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But dont forget that according to many ND is also one of the best teams ever.. every year they win it seems. If they would of beat usc the rnakings would have been 1ND 2TEXAS 3USC and USC would jump texas later to have the two best college football teams ever rematch the greatest game ever.
 
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Jeffcat said:
biggest break of the year was the UC receiver dropping the TD pass on their last drive. if he doesnt drop that then no natl championship. i must honestly say i almost fainted when i saw that ball go to that receiver.:( but he dropped it:)
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So. Texas' biggest break was when Ryab Hamby dropped the wide open pass in the endzone. Shit happens and as a college football fan you should know that.
 
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I think the BIGGEST flaw in ESPNs arguement is that they are already counting this 2005 USC team to win it all. If USC ends up "winning it all" in this retarded race and they lose the chapionship to Texas, does that mean that a non-national champion is bette rthan the 2002 (14-0) Ohio State team?

Bottom line, they should wait untill the Rose Bowl is done with before all of this B.S. Maybe if they were doing this tourny with the CHAMPION 2004 USC team, they could have a legit argument, but since USC hasnt won shit yet, its way too early.
 
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BuckeyePride85 said:
I think the BIGGEST flaw in ESPNs arguement is that they are already counting this 2005 USC team to win it all.

Bottom line, they should wait untill the Rose Bowl is done with before all of this B.S.
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Yep. That's what I've been saying all along.
Another question I have with this ESPN series is how in the world the '97 scUM team is rated higher than our team in '02. If my memory serves me correctly, scUM split that national title. We, on the other hand, were undisputed national champs after beating a Miami team that the media claimed was unbeatable.
 
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souL said:
...Am I the only one in the world that thinks USC was better last year?

As for the '02 OSU team... they were underestimated and underrated the entire year, why did anyone think it would be ANY different when it came to something like this?

I bet that ESPN will only have them losing to the #1, maybe #2 teams in this thing.

Also, the '98 Bucks probably had a better shot at this '05 USC team than our '02 guys. Look, I loved the '02 team but we'd probably have to score 30-35 points to win, and I don't know if we could get that out of them. Hell, the '98 team would probably be in the top 5 of this list if... well you know.
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I too believe that the '04 USC squad would kill the '05 USC squad.

In fact, I can't really see how you could make any argument against it... the '04 squad had the same firepower as the '05 squad: reggie, lendale, and leinart were all there, so was dwayne. The kicker is the '04 defense. The d-line of that team was just... MWAH. The LB core was a solid one too. This year's defense couldn't hold '04's jock. AND '04 had Norm Chow, and I truly believe he is a great offensive mastermind.
 
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Oneshot said:
I too believe that the '04 USC squad would kill the '05 USC squad.
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I think that the 2001 Miami Hurricane squad would beat this years Trojan team too; the '01 Hurricanes were a better team, IMHO, than the '02 team that the Buckeyes beat in Tempe in the Fiesta Bowl.

Really, if '05 Fresno State and '05 Notre Dame can take USC to the wire, than there are at least a dozen other teams in the past five years alone that could hang with USC. Heck, this years Ohio State, Penn State, and Auburn teams are all balanced enough to make a contest of it. I guess we'll just have to rely on the '05 Longhorns to prove the point. :wink2:

I think ESPN proved the inanity of their Top 10 when they selected the '02 Buckeyes over any of the Buckeyes teams from '73 - '75, '95, or '98. I'm not denying that the '02 Buckeye team, and their season, was magical, but I think it's difficult to make the case that that is even one of the five best teams OSU has fielded in the last 35 - 40 years.
 
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Jeffcat said:
well i dont see them pasting texas like choklahoma but i see them winning. i figured USC to win ina rout last year over choklahoma anyways. they were a very overrated team. texas's team is much better than the OU team from last year. USC has evolved some new offensive weapons this year and everybody's numbers on offense have improved. i believe leinart's numbers are better than they were last year when he won the heisman but you would have to check and make sure on that one. defensively bing is a monster at safety. they lost some quality LBs but the current ones are not bad and have done a good job. i have no idea how many starters will play in the game vs texas but if USC has a majority of them playing id watch out. last year USC barely beat UCLA. this year UCLA is a much better team and USC just obliterated them.
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UCLA's fallen on a lot of hard times... I think that if USC plays UCLA earlier in the year, the game is closer. It's like MSU for ND... if MSU was on ND's schedule the last game of the year, they probably win by 28.

Besides, USC's defense last year was LEAPS and BOUNDS better than this year's, and I'm taking injuries into account. I'm sorry, but I just don't buy into the offense being THAT much better... they put up *better* numbers, but it's not like the '04 team's numbers were bad in any way, shape, or form. The thing is, they didn't HAVE to score as much because the D was a better D.

It's what 'great' squads do, enough to win all the time. This time, USC needed some HUGE games outta Reggie Bush to pull out wins. The defense couldn't stop Fresno, so Reggie couldn't relent. Therefore he runs for almost 300 yards. Boom, numbers go up. When did he have to do that in '04?

I think the '04 squad was much more well rounded, if anything.
 
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Dryden said:
Really, if '05 Fresno State and '05 Notre Dame can take USC to the wire, than there are at least a dozen other teams in the past five years alone that could hang with USC. Heck, this years Ohio State, Penn State, and Auburn...
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First, I'm going to qualify 'competing'. I figure that if these teams played 20 times, it'd be a watchable game at least 15 of these times. I'd say the competing team would have to win at least 7-8 of them.

Not so sure about this one... Auburn's a solid team, but they didn't do anything to 'wow' me in that confrence. They lost to Georgia Tech? Yikes. They should have beaten LSU, but didn't. Their OOC was a joke outside of their one loss, and they didn't have to play Florida. They squeaked by Georgia, and caught Alabama when their high was over and done with. It's a good thing that the B10 got paired down with everything that happened in the BCS because Ohio State would have ROLLED this team.

Any team that can compete with USC this year needs serious offensive weapons, and a good defense behind them. You're looking at Ohio St, Texas, Penn St.+Williams, and that's about it. I really think that USC found Fresno St. on that one night outta 20 where it's a game. I think there's plenty of teams who can hang with them when the stars align. Louisville, Georgia, LSU, Oregon, UCLA, Texas Tech, West Virginia, Notre Dame (I thought they got lucky to only have 34 put on em), Auburn, hell even scUM could hang with them if they could get their offense to clique. They have 4 skill position guys that are just amazing, but the rest of the team ranges from average to good.

I'd love to have '02's D-Line get a shot at Matt Leinhart. Hell, if you ask Miami fans, they'd tell you we'd just send Will Allen to cheap shot Reggie Bush and the game would be over :2004:
 
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