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buckeyeintn
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Based on an "algorithm" which has produced some pretty screwy results over the years. ESPiN has been very protective of this "algorithm". I could write an algorithm that would put all B1G teams (except tsun, nothing is that far-fetched) in the top 20. I believe ESPiN's has about as much validity as mine would.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
It’s the FPI… which is a flawed model to begin with, but even worse early in the season.
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I'd say it's very useful if it's fulfilling it's goal, artificially propping up your investments.
It appears to be an effective tool, used by spinmasters to justify an otherwise obvious bias.
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I don't see how it is "effective" when the #5 team beats the #2 team and keeps the rankings the same afterwards.
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When we get to December and they're using it, successfully, to argue for a Georgia Clemson rematch in CFP ... it'll be very effective.
Your expectation is that it's supposed to provide an unbiased and objective data-driven ranking, and therefore it's not effective.
However, it was never meant to be anything of the sort. They've used it for years, with success, as one of their tools to prop up the SEC and ACC. The 2 conferences they just happen to have a large financial stake in.
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You're using "effective" in two different ways. You first say, quote:
"When we get to December and they're using it, successfully, to argue for a Georgia Clemson rematch in CFP ... it'll be very effective."
Then you turn around and say, quote:
"Your expectation is that it's supposed to provide an unbiased and objective data-driven ranking, and therefore it's not effective."
So which is it?
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He looked bloated, hung over and coked up to me, or at least that's how I looked when I was hung over and coked up.
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23 years?
wow
Raise your hand if you watched more than 23 years of football before the first down line was a thing
Back in the day, most Ohio State games were available live only on radio. Not internet streaming… hold-the-antenna-at-an-odd-angle-all-game-long AM radio.
Some of us, most games that were on tv we’d see on 19” (or smaller) black & white TVs.
Now we get it in 4K with first down lines and cameras in the first down markers and end-zone pylons and even one hovering over the field. And to say that stat coverage and graphics have improved would be like comparing modern computers to a caveman counting on his fingers.
And while I’m not a fan of all of the changes in the rules, it is unarguable that the game is more complex and interesting than it was, and is played at a higher level by college age players because of the improved coaching at the pop Warner and high-school levels
damn I love this game
Edit: In order to make this post relevant to the thread it’s in: Fuck ESPN
Edit II: And with all the technology at their disposal, ESPN still misses plays while showing you replays of 3 yard runs through the A gap.
wow
Raise your hand if you watched more than 23 years of football before the first down line was a thing
Back in the day, most Ohio State games were available live only on radio. Not internet streaming… hold-the-antenna-at-an-odd-angle-all-game-long AM radio.
Some of us, most games that were on tv we’d see on 19” (or smaller) black & white TVs.
Now we get it in 4K with first down lines and cameras in the first down markers and end-zone pylons and even one hovering over the field. And to say that stat coverage and graphics have improved would be like comparing modern computers to a caveman counting on his fingers.
And while I’m not a fan of all of the changes in the rules, it is unarguable that the game is more complex and interesting than it was, and is played at a higher level by college age players because of the improved coaching at the pop Warner and high-school levels
damn I love this game
Edit: In order to make this post relevant to the thread it’s in: Fuck ESPN
Edit II: And with all the technology at their disposal, ESPN still misses plays while showing you replays of 3 yard runs through the A gap.
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Zurp
I have misplaced my pants.
Not me. 23 years is just over half my life, now. I do remember listening to the radio for a few games, but by the mid to late 80s, most games were televised, at least locally.
I remember the first time I saw the first down marker. I don't remember the game, but I figured it was a field that was used for something else, and that line was part of the soccer field, or lacrosse field. "Hm. That's weird that it just happens to be where the first down was." Then they cut away to the coach or the offensive huddle, and a little while later there was another yellow line that was right where the first down was. Are they moving the line? How are the players not tripping over it? How are they moving it? Maybe it's just graphics on the TV. How is it not moving when the camera moves?
I still don't know how it works. I'm sure fancy-pants computers are involved. But it's strange to watch games, without it. (Always replays of old games.)
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