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ESPN (A bunch of Death-Spiraling maroons)

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http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/40223/how-relevant-is-this-years-b1g-title-game
Since the B1G championship game has no bearing on the NC race it's 'irrelevant' but they fail to mention that the ACC championship game, the Pac-12 Championship, and even the SEC championship also have zero impact on the NC race. IDK, I always thought winning your conference and making it to the Rose Bowl was a big deal. Sounds like ESPN is just pissy because this game isn't on their network.
 
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I haven't been following too closely, but I am sure that espn's crack investigative "journalists", the same ones that are sifting through the garbage cans at our school, are looking into why the network sat on information that could have led to the arrest of an alleged sexual predator and possibly could have stopped further crimes from being committed. :mad1:
 
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gnepmatt;2053487; said:
http://espn.go.com/blog/bigten/post/_/id/40223/how-relevant-is-this-years-b1g-title-game
Since the B1G championship game has no bearing on the NC race it's 'irrelevant' but they fail to mention that the ACC championship game, the Pac-12 Championship, and even the SEC championship also have zero impact on the NC race. IDK, I always thought winning your conference and making it to the Rose Bowl was a big deal. Sounds like ESPN is just [censored]y because this game isn't on their network.
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Yes.
 
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colobuck79;2053493; said:
I haven't been following too closely, but I am sure that espn's crack investigative "journalists", the same ones that are sifting through the garbage cans at our school, are looking into why the network sat on information that could have led to the arrest of an alleged sexual predator and possibly could have stopped further crimes from being committed. :mad1:
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ESPN management and "Spin Doctors" have already come out and said the network/company was under no legal obligation to verify that it was Bernie Fine's wife on that recording.

So the same network that skewered Joe Paterno and Co. for just doing what was legal and not what was moral did it themselves (w/ the Fine recording).
 
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As public records go, I personally favor as much transparency from the Government as possible. This is a recognition, of course, that there are some things related to national security, for example, which I don't need to know until the event is over and the documents declassified. Whatever. Point is, I would favor the release of documents in most "close" cases.

Obviously this may seem biased because I am an Ohio State fan and alumni. Nonetheless, I see no reason ESPN should obtain the documents they have not yet obtained. I understand ESPN considers itself a news agency and that they can argue "the public has a right to know!" but - the fact is, no the public doesn't have a RIGHT to know. It may have an interest in knowing.... it might even WANT to know.. But, internal e-mails between Tressel and Smith regarding how the university would handle the situation and so forth is not the public's interest. I mean, we're talking about college athletics for fucks sake... not a friggin government cover-up... or even a university cover up over something of significant importance (I'm looking at you Ped State)..

Second - who is ESPN to take standing for what the public has a "right" to know? ESPN is not a news agency alone. There probably is not any such thing as a news agency, but that's a larger issue not relevant here. Point is - ESPN is in business to make money, not report events. (And that's true of ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN you name it). Consequently, the organizations "opinion" is profit driven and therefore biased. Simply said - ESPN wants this information to make money, not for any legitimate or important public purpose.

If ESPN is serious about the "public interest" and being a "news agency" then go bang on the door at Ped State. (My personal opinion on that? I'd hope ESPN keeps their goons away from really important issues like pedophilia)

In any case - I hope the high court uses a balancing test which encourages privacy in the Ohio State case considering the motivation of the entity seeking the disclosure. Such a ruling would NOT threaten more legitimate public disclosures. If ESPN was asking Richard Nixon for the tapes, that's one thing... asking Ohio State for shit having to do with violating some obscure body's rules (The NCAA)? Come the fuck on.

Who the fuck cares?
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2054038; said:
As public records go, I personally favor as much transparency from the Government as possible. This is a recognition, of course, that there are some things related to national security, for example, which I don't need to know until the event is over and the documents declassified. Whatever. Point is, I would favor the release of documents in most "close" cases.

Obviously this may seem biased because I am an Ohio State fan and alumni. Nonetheless, I see no reason ESPN should obtain the documents they have not yet obtained. I understand ESPN considers itself a news agency and that they can argue "the public has a right to know!" but - the fact is, no the public doesn't have a RIGHT to know. It may have an interest in knowing.... it might even WANT to know.. But, internal e-mails between Tressel and Smith regarding how the university would handle the situation and so forth is not the public's interest. I mean, we're talking about college athletics for fucks sake... not a friggin government cover-up... or even a university cover up over something of significant importance (I'm looking at you Ped State)..

Second - who is ESPN to take standing for what the public has a "right" to know? ESPN is not a news agency alone. There probably is not any such thing as a news agency, but that's a larger issue not relevant here. Point is - ESPN is in business to make money, not report events. (And that's true of ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN you name it). Consequently, the organizations "opinion" is profit driven and therefore biased. Simply said - ESPN wants this information to make money, not for any legitimate or important public purpose.

If ESPN is serious about the "public interest" and being a "news agency" then go bang on the door at Ped State. (My personal opinion on that? I'd hope ESPN keeps their goons away from really important issues like pedophilia)

In any case - I hope the high court uses a balancing test which encourages privacy in the Ohio State case considering the motivation of the entity seeking the disclosure. Such a ruling would NOT threaten more legitimate public disclosures. If ESPN was asking Richard Nixon for the tapes, that's one thing... asking Ohio State for shit having to do with violating some obscure body's rules (The NCAA)? Come the fuck on.

Who the fuck cares?
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Perhaps you're not familiar with the Syracuse and Bernie Fine situation? They're a part of the mess right now, since they had taped an interview with a Bernie Fine accuser several years ago, and didn't make it public because it wasn't corroborated. Ironic that they actually made a decision based on journalistic principles a few years ago, huh? They broke the story about 10 days ago, and Syracuse fired the bball assistant after a tape that 1 of the accusers (now 39 years old) made of a phone call with Bernie Fine's wife, which made Fine look guilty.

Also, to the point of ESPN acting in their own interest, and not the public's. Oregon released documents on the day before JoePa got fired, due to a FOIA request from The Oregonian. Most people never even noticed that the stuff was released, because of their shrewd timing. But ESPN hadn't asked for that stuff (as far as I know), and if anybody thinks that Phil Knight's Nike advertising dollars aren't a factor in NOT asking Oregon for stuff similar to how they're pestering tOSU, you're kidding yourself.
 
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But ESPN hadn't asked for that stuff (as far as I know), and if anybody thinks that Phil Knight's Nike advertising dollars aren't a factor in NOT asking Oregon for stuff similar to how they're pestering tOSU, you're kidding yourself.
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A blog sent Oregon a FOIA request for what ESPN requested of them, and received an answer: very little.

I don't feel like digging it up, but it was a very brief & narrow request of Oregon by ESPN.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2054038; said:
As public records go, I personally favor as much transparency from the Government as possible. This is a recognition, of course, that there are some things related to national security, for example, which I don't need to know until the event is over and the documents declassified. Whatever. Point is, I would favor the release of documents in most "close" cases.
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I agree with most of your post, but I'll add that I do believe amateur student-athletes are entitled to some privacy. FERPA protects "education records," which should include activites such as athletics on behalf of the university. I know most us view them as athlete-students, but their participation in sports is supposed to be an essential part of their educational experience. That's the reason why the NCAA exists in the first place.

Also, I think it is important to note that the Ohio State Athletic Department is self-sufficient, not reliant on any tax dollars. That isn't to say that the athletic programs do not benefit from being a part of a large taxpayer supported public institution such as Ohio State. But it does tend to take away from the argument that taxpayers deserve to know where their money is going.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2054134; said:
You do know that "transparency" would imply you want the government to see as much as possible.
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Mili, no I'm not. ESPN is not the government. In this case, Ohio State is the governmental entity. (A state institution which receives federal funds) Thus, in this case, the government is good old State U and it turns out they are the ones who are trying to keep potential public records from being viewed.

I would ordinarily want public records turned over because I want as transparent a government as possible. However, as I explained, transparency is not absolute. In a case where the "governmental entity" is more nebulous, like a University instead of say the County Sheriff, it's even less important that I, as a member of the public, get copies of sensitive material.

I can't understand how my post could possibly be interpreted in the way you summarized.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2054312; said:
Mili, no I'm not. ESPN is not the government. In this case, Ohio State is the governmental entity. (A state institution which receives federal funds) Thus, in this case, the government is good old State U and it turns out they are the ones who are trying to keep potential public records from being viewed.
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Now I see...pun intended.
 
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