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East Region vBet and Discussion

So the rule is that the time stops when the whistle blows...that's fine when we're talking a second when there are minutes on the clock, but when we're talking tenths of a second, I think you should really go to the monitor and go from when it actually happened. What did you call, and when did it happen.
 
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Head of officials explaining the the UNC-Wash. ending at halftime. Rick Pitino is not wasting the opportunity to kiss some ass on national TV.

BTW, I'm satisfied with the explanation of the clock ruling (it stops when the ref signals, not when the ball hits the floor - some lag is to be expected). I'm not satisfied with the idea that the refs thought so highly of themselves in that situation to not double check at the coach's request - a request that he is within his rights to make in that situation.
 
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jlb1705;1894490; said:
Head of officials explaining the the UNC-Wash. ending at halftime. Rick Pitino is not wasting the opportunity to kiss some ass on national TV.

BTW, I'm satisfied with the explanation of the clock ruling (it stops when the ref signals, not when the ball hits the floor - some lag is to be expected).
The problem I see with John Adams' explanation of the rule is that, while his explanation is correct, is not typically how it is applied. Almost every time that the officials go to the monitor to adjust the clock it is adjusted to when the ball touches the ground, not when the whistle is blown.

To be fair, using a small monitor with (I'm guessing) no sound puts the officials in a tough spot and that's probably why it is applied like I described above.
 
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bkochmc;1894497; said:
The problem I see with John Adams' explanation of the rule is that, while his explanation is correct, is not typically how it is applied. Almost every time that the officials go to the monitor to adjust the clock it is adjusted to when the ball touches the ground, not when the whistle is blown.

To be fair, using a small monitor with (I'm guessing) no sound puts the officials in a tough spot and that's probably why it is applied like I described above.

I agree with this, but I also think that refs should be applying the rules in that situation correctly rather than defaulting to others' misapplications.

Anyway, It's kind of silly that we (and the CBS studio to some degree) have latched on to this. Washington gagged that game away and the game was not lost on that call.
 
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bkochmc;1894497; said:
The problem I see with John Adams' explanation of the rule is that, while his explanation is correct, is not typically how it is applied. Almost every time that the officials go to the monitor to adjust the clock it is adjusted to when the ball touches the ground, not when the whistle is blown.

To be fair, using a small monitor with (I'm guessing) no sound puts the officials in a tough spot and that's probably why it is applied like I described above.

Using a small monitor with no sound is the way to go in order to get the call ACTUALLY correct. F when he blows the whistle.

Exactly why they should have gone to the monitor.
 
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KingLeon;1894507; said:
Using a small monitor with no sound is the way to go in order to get the call ACTUALLY correct. F when he blows the whistle.

Exactly why they should have gone to the monitor.
You as a fan can say "F when he blows the whistle" but until the rule is changed... that IS the rule and it should be enforced as written (no matter how incorrect it may appear to be).

But I do agree that they should have gone to the monitor to verify the call was correct. The clock official said that he took a look and the call on the floor was correct. I think there should have been another tenth or two put on but not any more than that... wouldn't have changed anything in Washington's shot selection and poor play down the stretch.
 
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scarletmike;1894487; said:
So the rule is that the time stops when the whistle blows...

I've always thought that should be the rule, but the problem is that's not how it has been enforced in the past. Time and again, the clock is set to when the ball hit the floor rather than when the ref makes the call. To suddenly switch today smells of damage control after homer decided the clock was fine.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1894541; said:
Hardly matters. Thomas put up a deuce when he needed a 3. Pretty much why no one is worried about the goaltending call which could have been made.

He rushed it because there was only 0.5. With 1.2 he could have taken a dribble, making sure he was behind the line. That's why it mattered. :wink2:

But U-Dub really lost the game when they had the inbounds pass deflected with about 7 seconds left, when they were only down by 1.
 
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BB73;1894567; said:
He rushed it because there was only 0.5. With 1.2 he could have taken a dribble, making sure he was behind the line. That's why it mattered. :wink2:

But U-Dub really lost the game when they had the inbounds pass deflected with about 7 seconds left, when they were only down by 1.

You may be right about the 1.2 and I agree that's when the ball hit the floor OOB, but if it is the whistle, it was 0.8. Not sure it makes much of a difference. I forget the sequence, but if memory serves there was no need for a half court bomb either.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1894571; said:
You may be right about the 1.2 and I agree that's when the ball hit the floor OOB, but if it is the whistle, it was 0.8. Not sure it makes much of a difference. I forget the sequence, but if memory serves there was no need for a half court bomb either.

I think the kid thought he was going to get fouled at halfcourt, and he'd get 3 FTs to tie it. But he heaved it well before he had to.
 
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