E. Gordon Gee (President West Virginia U.)

[BayBuck]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5845736

I know that some people are upset about TCU and Boise being in contention for the NC, but I have to question the timing of Gee's comments. Saying these teams so late in the season seems like sour grapes to me. He knows that OSU needs a lot of help to get in the NC picture and is upset that they are stuck behind at least two teams that aren't likely to lose. If he had said these things at the beginning of the season when OSU was number 2, I would give him a lot more credibility. However, at this point it just comes off as childish and borderline jealous. I like Gee, but I think he is a little out of line. If he wants to be mad someone, he should be mad at OSU for losing. I would love to see the Buckeyes in the NC, but think that other teams are deserving as well.

I think Gee's comments can actually be read without a comparison to OSU exactly because the Buckeyes are out of the title hunt. This isn't LSU's AD lobbying to get bumped up a couple spots in the polls, it's simply the nation's highest-profile university president coming down emphatically in favor of the traditional arrangement of the CFB postseason.

I really love this line in particular:

"It's not about this incessant drive to have a national championship because I think that's a slippery slope to professionalism"

 

[Bucklion]

I do have to question why he would say stuff like this. It's not that I oppose it or disagree with it...but saying stuff like "We don't play Little Sisters of the Poor" as a President is only going to get OSU further trashed, especially in the media, when they say stuff like "WHAT ABOUT EASTERN MICHIGAN THERE CHIEF LULZ!!1111!!1!!!!11!!" I don't have a problem with what he said, I'm just not sure there is a real positive to him in particular saying it.

 

[y0yoyoin]

1- ohio state isnt, and should not be going to the national championship game.
2-sometimes gee confuses me with silly statements like this. hes a bright guy, he walked right into a "trap." or he purposefully created a circus.
3-is he toking it up again?

agree with all 3...and if i had to pick it would be #3...what is Gee saying here?? Boise and TCU aren't worthy to play for the NC game, but he doesn't approve a playoff, but he loves the BCS and is very very happy with how it has worked....which one is it....yes Boise and TCU play a cupcake schedule but anyone outside the Big 10 can say the same for us and do say that, and most importantly Gee's beloved BCS says that we played a weak schedule this year according to how we are ranked...I think Gee got into the Egg Nog a little early this year and decided to voice his opinion on Boise and TCU to the AP...i still love him tho and all the great things hes done for the university

 

[scarletmike]

While he could have possibly chosen his words a little better, his main point is correct. Boise and TCU do not play in anything approaching a power conference right now, and playing 2-4 teams with a pulse each year (BSU/TCU) vs. playing 8-10 teams with a pulse each year (tOSU, Neb., Florida, etc.) is a vastly different thing. And those level of schools demanding a spot in a system with the Big Boys after just a few seasons of success over teams without a pulse...it should not fly. Let them continue the complete curb stomping of those schools - supposedly showing an ability to field high level talent consistently - for about 8-10 seasons, and then we'll talk. Oh, and continue beating the Big Boys for your OOC games as well.

Gee had a valid point, but his phrasing was either the result of falling into a trap question, or purposely stirring up a bit of controversy.

 

[BayBuck]

I do have to question why he would say stuff like this. It's not that I oppose it or disagree with it...but saying stuff like "We don't play Little Sisters of the Poor" as a President is only going to get OSU further trashed, especially in the media, when they say stuff like "WHAT ABOUT EASTERN MICHIGAN THERE CHIEF LULZ!!1111!!1!!!!11!!" I don't have a problem with what he said, I'm just not sure there is a real positive to him in particular saying it.

Gee was just expanding on a comment about playing in SEC and BigTen: "we do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor [in conference play]"

 

[Bucklion]

Gee was just expanding on a comment about playing in SEC and BigTen: "we do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor [in conference play]"

Yeah, I know, but those are the types of phrases that grab headlines without context, which many deem inflammatory. Like I said, I don't have a problem with it, I just don't know what he or OSU gains by him saying it.

 

[buckeyesin07]

I know that some people are upset about TCU and Boise being in contention for the NC, but I have to question the timing of Gee's comments. Saying these teams so late in the season seems like sour grapes to me. He knows that OSU needs a lot of help to get in the NC picture and is upset that they are stuck behind at least two teams that aren't likely to lose. If he had said these things at the beginning of the season when OSU was number 2, I would give him a lot more credibility. However, at this point it just comes off as childish and borderline jealous. I like Gee, but I think he is a little out of line. If he wants to be mad someone, he should be mad at OSU for losing. I would love to see the Buckeyes in the NC, but think that other teams are deserving as well.

IMO, you're the one that's way out of line here. A reporter asked a question and he answered it. I see nothing in his comments that indicate he's jealous, childish, mad or this is sour grapes, etc., like you claim. Gee's smart enough to realize that even with TCU and Boise St. out of the picture OSU wouldn't make it to the title game (as an aside, I'm not sure why you don't realize this), so your contention that this is all some ploy to get OSU into the title game or that this sour grapes because they're not there is ridiculous.

 

[buckeyesin07]

I think Gee's comments can actually be read without a comparison to OSU exactly because the Buckeyes are out of the title hunt.

Bingo.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Who cares? Who's he pissing off? A bunch of fucking mid-majors who mean nothing to us and will still come groveling the next time we offer them a payday. It's not like he degraded other Big Ten or AAU universities.

Besides, I kind of agree with him. I don't want a playoff and would prefer the old bowl system.

 

[BigWoof31]

I think Gee's comments can actually be read without a comparison to OSU exactly because the Buckeyes are out of the title hunt.

Furthermore, Gee is likely the only President to have worked for two seperate BCS schools in the highest revenue leagues (SEC and BIG 10) - his opinions and insight should be the source of further thought and not scorn.

Mike Lupica at the rest of the New England Media circus (who don't care about College Football 50 weeks out of the year) are currently writing FURIOUS rebuttals that will appear in Sunday editorial sections.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Gee's smart enough to realize that even with TCU and Boise St. out of the picture OSU wouldn't make it to the title game (as an aside, I'm not sure why you don't realize this)

Well, maybe he doesn't realize it because it's not exactly true. Highly unlikely to occur, yes, but not exactly true.

Oregon loses to Arizona
Auburn loses to Alabama
Boise loses to Nevanda
LSU loses to Arkansas
Wisconsin loses to Northwestern
Stanford loses to Oregon State

I'd have included TCU, but I don't think that losing to New Mexico is remotely possible. These other contests, again while admittedly extremely unlikely (individually, and even more so collectively), have a snowballs chance anyway.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Furthermore, Gee is likely the only President to have worked for two seperate BCS schools in the highest revenue leagues (SEC and BIG 10) - his opinions and insight should be the source of further thought and not scorn.

Mike Lupica at the rest of the New England Media circus (who don't care about College Football 50 weeks out of the year) are currently writing FURIOUS rebuttals that will appear in Sunday editorial sections.

I'm sure they are. And as soon as one of those fuckers says "But Boise beat Oklahoma" each of us, Big Ten and SEC fans, can unite and roll off all the teams our teams have ever beat in any season in our histories as well.

 

[y0yoyoin]

Well, maybe he doesn't realize it because it's not exactly true. Highly unlikely to occur, yes, but not exactly true.

Oregon loses to Arizona
Auburn loses to Alabama
Boise loses to Nevanda
LSU loses to Arkansas
Wisconsin loses to Northwestern
Stanford loses to Oregon State

I'd have included TCU, but I don't think that losing to New Mexico is remotely possible. These other contests, again while admittedly extremely unlikely (individually, and even more so collectively), have a snowballs chance anyway.

exactly...i think the odds of us getting to the title game are as good as the browns winning the super bowl this year BUT the year we played LSU in the '07 NC game we also had alot of help getting in...if you remember the last 2 weeks were crazy and there were alot of upsets....Arkansas over #1 LSU in OT, a day later #3 MizzU beat #2 Kansas and a week later Pitt over #2 WVU and Oklahoma over #1 MizzU....so anything is possible as kevin garnett would say

 

[BigJim]

Well, maybe he doesn't realize it because it's not exactly true. Highly unlikely to occur, yes, but not exactly true.

Oregon loses to Arizona
Auburn loses to Alabama
Boise loses to Nevanda
LSU loses to Arkansas
Wisconsin loses to Northwestern
Stanford loses to Oregon State

I'd have included TCU, but I don't think that losing to New Mexico is remotely possible. These other contests, again while admittedly extremely unlikely (individually, and even more so collectively), have a snowballs chance anyway.

You can actually take Boise off of that list as well given the "even with TCU and Boise out of the picture" part of it. Gee's point would be that only 4 of those things should have to happen.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

You can actually take Boise off of that list as well given the "even with TCU and Boise out of the picture" part of it. Gee's point would be that only 4 of those things should have to happen.

Sure. And, frankly, he's correct.