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Duke Blue Devils (that rat faced scumbag)

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crazybuckfan40 said:
What is with the pollution Of Dook and Tarhole fans on here. Don't you guys know who we have coming in next year.:biggrin:

Maybe you can guys can jump on that bandwagon, b/c I am sure it will be in full force next year.:tongue2:
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I've always rooted for basketball teams in this order:
1. Duke
2. Dayton
3. tOSU
My family wasn't as into college basketball as they are football, so I wasn't baptized with tOSU Basketball doctrine like I was tOSU football. I always love seeing the Bucks do well in any sport though...
 
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DID ANY OF YOU GUYS SUPPORTING DUKE ACTUALLY WATCH THE FSU VS. DUKE GAME?????

It was awful.......you can't reward aggressive play at one end end of the court and not reward it on the other side.....the refs need to be consistent, and they hardly ever are when it comes to duke.

Jay Bilas dug his own grave the other night on tv, and he didn't even realize how stupid he made himself sound. His quote, "if you want the fouls to even out against duke you need to attack the paint." Well Jay 90% of FSU's shots came within the 3 point arc and the stats from the game breakdown like this:

Combined in the last two games, Duke has attempted 80 free throws to FSU/Boston College's 24. 80-24! You'd think Duke plays a passive 2-3 zone and teams just launch three-pointer after three-pointer against 'em, right?

Look at the FSU game this way:

Rebounds: FSU 49, Duke 36
Offensive rebounds: FSU 21, Duke 13
Points in the paint: FSU 64, Duke 26
Three-point attempts: Duke 22, FSU 10
Free throw attempts: Duke 43, FSU 11
Al Thornton field goal attempts: 32
Al Thornton three-point attempts: 1
Al Thornton free throw attempts: 3
J.J. Redick field goal attempts: 25
J.J. Redick three-point attempts: 10
J.J. Redick free throw attempts: 10
Shelden Williams field goal attempts: 14
Shelden Williams three-point attempts: 0
Shelden Williams free throw attempts: 16

At least when it came to defending Thornton the other day, Duke's defenders couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie. And nearly every time Thornton took a shot around the basket, there was *some* contact. Maybe not enough to merit a foul on every shot, but certainly the equivalent of what Redick and Williams faced on the other end of the floor. Either you reward aggressive play on both ends of the floor or you don't. But you can't do it on one end and not the other.

If you watched the game, youd see just how "biased" the officiating is. And I'm not one of those ACC conspiracy theorists, but coach K has these officials under his thumb, and these officials are reluctant to call fouls on duke on the defensive end, but they get all the ticky tack stuff when on offense....its embarrassing to watch....ive never seen a team given so much "respect" from officials...name another team that gets as many flops called a charge...i hate their program just for bringing that defensive play into the main stream...i think bobby hurley was doing it with regularity before vlade divac learned it

anyways, its unfortunate a message was sent to the officials after the FSU game because that game could have put them in great position for the dance....FSU deserved to win...43-11 in freethrows, awful!
 
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billmac91 said:
DID ANY OF YOU GUYS SUPPORTING DUKE ACTUALLY WATCH THE FSU VS. DUKE GAME?????

It was awful.......you can't reward aggressive play at one end end of the court and not reward it on the other side.....the refs need to be consistent, and they hardly ever are when it comes to duke.

Jay Bilas dug his own grave the other night on tv, and he didn't even realize how stupid he made himself sound. His quote, "if you want the fouls to even out against duke you need to attack the paint." Well Jay 90% of FSU's shots came within the 3 point arc and the stats from the game breakdown like this:

Combined in the last two games, Duke has attempted 80 free throws to FSU/Boston College's 24. 80-24! You'd think Duke plays a passive 2-3 zone and teams just launch three-pointer after three-pointer against 'em, right?

Look at the FSU game this way:

Rebounds: FSU 49, Duke 36
Offensive rebounds: FSU 21, Duke 13
Points in the paint: FSU 64, Duke 26
Three-point attempts: Duke 22, FSU 10
Free throw attempts: Duke 43, FSU 11
Al Thornton field goal attempts: 32
Al Thornton three-point attempts: 1
Al Thornton free throw attempts: 3
J.J. Redick field goal attempts: 25
J.J. Redick three-point attempts: 10
J.J. Redick free throw attempts: 10
Shelden Williams field goal attempts: 14
Shelden Williams three-point attempts: 0
Shelden Williams free throw attempts: 16

At least when it came to defending Thornton the other day, Duke's defenders couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie. And nearly every time Thornton took a shot around the basket, there was *some* contact. Maybe not enough to merit a foul on every shot, but certainly the equivalent of what Redick and Williams faced on the other end of the floor. Either you reward aggressive play on both ends of the floor or you don't. But you can't do it on one end and not the other.

If you watched the game, youd see just how "biased" the officiating is. And I'm not one of those ACC conspiracy theorists, but coach K has these officials under his thumb, and these officials are reluctant to call fouls on duke on the defensive end, but they get all the ticky tack stuff when on offense....its embarrassing to watch....ive never seen a team given so much "respect" from officials...name another team that gets as many flops called a charge...i hate their program just for bringing that defensive play into the main stream...i think bobby hurley was doing it with regularity before vlade divac learned it

anyways, its unfortunate a message was sent to the officials after the FSU game because that game could have put them in great position for the dance....FSU deserved to win...43-11 in freethrows, awful!
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Yes I watched it... Aside from the bogus technical call, I though the officiating was so-so, but definitely nothing to be considered homerish. There are plenty of schools that shoot more free-throws than the other school does. The other day UNC shot 29 to only 9 for Clemson. It happens a lot... Get over it.
 
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it does happen a lot, it happens to duke. The officials weren't suspended for just one call either, its a message to the ACC refs to start calling the games without all the "respect" for duke.....i think its pretty appalling and disrespectful to the game...if u watched the game how can you say shelden williams deserved to stay in the game after he caused the same contact on thornton and got away with it, but shlden went to the free-throw line 10 times for even less....i mean you can say im being biased, but im just calling it the way it was.....if williams were wearing an fsu jersey, no way does he go go "fouless" in the last 14 minnutes of play with 4 fouls
 
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billmac91 said:
it does happen a lot, it happens to duke. The officials weren't suspended for just one call either, its a message to the ACC refs to start calling the games without all the "respect" for duke.....i think its pretty appalling and disrespectful to the game...if u watched the game how can you say shelden williams deserved to stay in the game after he caused the same contact on thornton and got away with it, but shlden went to the free-throw line 10 times for even less....i mean you can say im being biased, but im just calling it the way it was.....if williams were wearing an fsu jersey, no way does he go go "fouless" in the last 14 minnutes of play with 4 fouls
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Make sure you tell where you went to school billmac...
 
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thats fair, i went to FSU.....i also stated its easy to say im biased......even though i went to FSU it doesn't change the way the game was called against FSU or BC....all you have to do is get a copy of either game and watch....again nothing glaringly obvious will jump out at you except the final foul statistics....again ticky tack calls on the offensive end put duke on the free throw line, while ticky tack stuff when the play d, is just good aggressive play by duke.....the statistics of points in paint in the paint for FSU and the outside shooting of Duke is really telling imo.....and again i firmly stand by statemnt, if shelden williams had been an FSU player he would of fouled out, no doubt, and if al thornton were wearing a duke jersey he would of gone to free thrown line more than 3 times with all the time he spent in the paint
 
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