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Donald Sterling and his comments

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BIATCHabutuka said:
i'd be pissed if i had to do a forced sale.

lets say he bought the team for 12 million dollars.

now he sells it for say 512 million dollars.

500 million dollar taxable gain.

if he was a normal human being instead of one of the chosen few, he would be paying more than 100 million in taxes based off this.

me, i would make the league compensate me for my accelerated tax liability.

reality, rich people don't pay taxes, that is only for guys who work for a living, the free range slaves so to speak.


they call it an income tax yet tax people on their revenues. as if workers don't have expenses as human being going concerns.

reminder for the humanities majors out there, income = revenue - expenses.

my income is my pay minus what i spend, yet they tax me based on what i earn with no regard to my operating expenses (booze, chicks, food, gambling, etc).
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Thank you.

Money is an asset, he is having private assets taken from him because in the current cultural atmosphere he has been labeled as a racist which according to the mob (media, social and otherwise) is essentially a crime and not simply an unpopular opinion.

The other owners think he will cost them money because of boycotts and such? They never seemed to worry about that before. The only thing different now is the modern day Committee of Public Safety has gotten hold of it and created a digital echo chamber of moral outrage over the atrocity. Being tagged with the label of racist is now so toxic no one will get within 100 yards of the accused for fear of themselves being labeled an enemy of the republic a racist. The mob is accuser, judge, jury and executioner.

The guy doesn't like blacks (or any other race apparently). So what?

If we start sending every member of every race that has hangups about other races to the guillotine we wont have many heads still on shoulders (if the truth be told).
 
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Based on what I have heard through various media shows on this, the picture has been painted that the door has just swung open to a long drawn out scenario. I am guessing that Sterling's lawyers will be investigating all of the other owners looking for any skeletons in their closets. I would further speculate that the financial wranglings will end up in court whether by Sterling or those who stand to inherit and potentially lose $ from a forced sale.
 
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buckeyebri said:
Based on what I have heard through various media shows on this, the picture has been painted that the door has just swung open to a long drawn out scenario. I am guessing that Sterling's lawyers will be investigating all of the other owners looking for any skeletons in their closets. I would further speculate that the financial wranglings will end up in court whether by Sterling or those who stand to inherit and potentially lose $ from a forced sale.
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I believe that when all the legal wrangling gets sorted out that the villain is going to win and laugh all the way to the bank. By all accounts the girlfriend is shitting bricks.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Thank you.

Money is an asset, he is having private assets taken from him because in the current cultural atmosphere he has been labeled as a racist which according to the mob (media, social and otherwise) is essentially a crime and not simply an unpopular opinion.

The other owners think he will cost them money because of boycotts and such? They never seemed to worry about that before. The only thing different now is the modern day Committee of Public Safety has gotten hold of it and created a digital echo chamber of moral outrage over the atrocity. Being tagged with the label of racist is now so toxic no one will get within 100 yards of the accused for fear of themselves being labeled an enemy of the republic a racist. The mob is accuser, judge, jury and executioner.

The guy doesn't like blacks (or any other race apparently). So what?

If we start sending every member of every race that has hangups about other races to the guillotine we wont have many heads still on shoulders (if the truth be told).
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In fairness I don't recall when an owner's comments or actions resulted in an immediate mass exodus of corporate sponsors, either.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Ding ding
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Soooo...if the government isn't involved, then what's the problem then? Even if you think his property is being taken away, it isn't by the government, it's by the league, who operate under their own set of bylaws. You may not like the PC crowd or its influence (I don't either, really) but if the influence is economic...then isn't that kind of the way the system works?

And not for nothing, but his team isn't being seized from him...he may be forced to sell, but he will make a shitload of money from that.
 
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Bucklion said:
Soooo...if the government isn't involved, then what's the problem then? Even if you think his property is being taken away, it isn't by the government, it's by the league, who operate under their own set of bylaws. You may not like the PC crowd or its influence (I don't either, really) but if the influence is economic...then isn't that kind of the way the system works?

And not for nothing, but his team isn't being seized from him...he may be forced to sell, but he will make a [Mark May]load of money from that.
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To be clear, it's two completely different issues. Jagdaddy said wake him when the government got involved and I just pointed out that they are now involved on some level (no matter how flaccid and empty their posturing may be).

As far as the property goes, I realize his team isn't being seized but his dollars are and just because he's rich doesn't mean it's ok to force him to suffer a loss.

To the last part I'd say no, the system doesn't allow for tyranny of the masses (or at least it shouldn't).

At the end of the day, my concern isn't for Stirling, he's obviously a dickhead. My concern is that the PC mob's influence is getting out of fucking control in this country. What happens when those pinheads turn on the next guy for whatever cause they deem worthy?
 
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Bucklion said:
Soooo...if the government isn't involved, then what's the problem then? Even if you think his property is being taken away, it isn't by the government, it's by the league, who operate under their own set of bylaws. You may not like the PC crowd or its influence (I don't either, really) but if the influence is economic...then isn't that kind of the way the system works?

And not for nothing, but his team isn't being seized from him...he may be forced to sell, but he will make a [Mark May]load of money from that.
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My gut feeling is that if starting today the media blacked out all coverage of this within a week all would be forgotten and it would be business as usual. It'll be interesting watching as the dominoes start dropping, there's a lot of questions to be answered by a lot of people.
 
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My opinion. The man said some dumb, ignorant things in private behind closed doors. Is he a racist? Maybe. Is he a tool? Probably. That being said, he is getting screwed right now. Heck, if this were some criminal case that audio tape wouldn't even be admissible. What he said on the tape really wasn't even that bad. He doesn't want his gf hanging out with black dudes all the time, big deal. The bitch clearly baited him and since we live in a culture where if you don't act outraged about insensitive remarks made toward a black person then you're cast as a racist too, the world is vilifying him and taking steps that frankly should not even be legal. Fine him sure, even suspend him for awhile. To ban him for life and force his to sell HIS team is ridiculous. If he is such an established racist, funny how the league never cared before, how all those black people had no issue taking his money, how the NAACP had no issue taking his money and giving him awards. Funny how Larry Johnson can make racist remarks and it's barely even discussed. Sad that we live in a society full of double standards.

I honestly am starting to feel like he is being extorted... and I will believe so even more if Magic Johnson gets the team now bc Magic has been trying and is frustrated bc he wants an LA bball team. His gold digging gf just so happens to be super close with Magic and Dodger players.

Sterling is a douche, but I hope he sues the shit out of that Stiviano woman, the NBA, and fights the sale of his team as long as he can. If he is such a bigot and a racist, I guess those clipper players should have no issue refusing any money from him and returning the money they were given. Oh yeah, that's right, they had no issues accepting that "racists" money
 
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HOLYBUCKEYE10 said:
My opinion. The man said some dumb, ignorant things in private behind closed doors. Is he a racist? Maybe. Is he a tool? Probably. That being said, he is getting screwed right now. Heck, if this were some criminal case that audio tape wouldn't even be admissible. What he said on the tape really wasn't even that bad. He doesn't want his gf hanging out with black dudes all the time, big deal. The bitch clearly baited him and since we live in a culture where if you don't act outraged about insensitive remarks made toward a black person then you're cast as a racist too, the world is vilifying him and taking steps that frankly should not even be legal. Fine him sure, even suspend him for awhile. To ban him for life and force his to sell HIS team is ridiculous. If he is such an established racist, funny how the league never cared before, how all those black people had no issue taking his money, how the NAACP had no issue taking his money and giving him awards. Funny how Larry Johnson can make racist remarks and it's barely even discussed. Sad that we live in a society full of double standards.

I honestly am starting to feel like he is being extorted... and I will believe so even more if Magic Johnson gets the team now bc Magic has been trying and is frustrated bc he wants an LA bball team. His gold digging gf just so happens to be super close with Magic and Dodger players.

Sterling is a douche, but I hope he sues the [Mark May] out of that Stiviano woman, the NBA, and fights the sale of his team as long as he can. If he is such a bigot and a racist, I guess those clipper players should have no issue refusing any money from him and returning the money they were given. Oh yeah, that's right, they had no issues accepting that "racists" money
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Ask and ye shall receive.....Oprah has thrown her ample ass into the mix to take the Clippers from him.
 
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HOLYBUCKEYE10 said:
My opinion. The man said some dumb, ignorant things in private behind closed doors. Is he a racist? Maybe. Is he a tool? Probably. That being said, he is getting screwed right now. Heck, if this were some criminal case that audio tape wouldn't even be admissible. What he said on the tape really wasn't even that bad. He doesn't want his gf hanging out with black dudes all the time, big deal. The bitch clearly baited him and since we live in a culture where if you don't act outraged about insensitive remarks made toward a black person then you're cast as a racist too, the world is vilifying him and taking steps that frankly should not even be legal. Fine him sure, even suspend him for awhile. To ban him for life and force his to sell HIS team is ridiculous. If he is such an established racist, funny how the league never cared before, how all those black people had no issue taking his money, how the NAACP had no issue taking his money and giving him awards. Funny how Larry Johnson can make racist remarks and it's barely even discussed. Sad that we live in a society full of double standards.

I honestly am starting to feel like he is being extorted... and I will believe so even more if Magic Johnson gets the team now bc Magic has been trying and is frustrated bc he wants an LA bball team. His gold digging gf just so happens to be super close with Magic and Dodger players.

Sterling is a douche, but I hope he sues the [Mark May] out of that Stiviano woman, the NBA, and fights the sale of his team as long as he can. If he is such a bigot and a racist, I guess those clipper players should have no issue refusing any money from him and returning the money they were given. Oh yeah, that's right, they had no issues accepting that "racists" money
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I'm guessing that they were quite upset that they were forced to make a public posture of indignation at the risk of losing that paycheck. I'll be waiting for the DNC to send back all that "racist money" too
 
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Jaxbuck said:
To be clear, it's two completely different issues. Jagdaddy said wake him when the government got involved and I just pointed out that they are now involved on some level (no matter how flaccid and empty their posturing may be).

As far as the property goes, I realize his team isn't being seized but his dollars are and just because he's rich doesn't mean it's ok to force him to suffer a loss.

To the last part I'd say no, the system doesn't allow for tyranny of the masses (or at least it shouldn't).

At the end of the day, my concern isn't for Stirling, he's obviously a dickhead. My concern is that the PC mob's influence is getting out of fucking control in this country. What happens when those pinheads turn on the next guy for whatever cause they deem worthy?
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Well yes and no, I mean I understand you think the PC mob has too much influence, and I do too...but how many times do we hear people from all walks of political sides say stuff like "If you don't like X, then vote/show with your wallet...don't go to the games, or buy the goods, or eat at the restaurants, or watch the TV programs, etc." There have been calls for boycotts of sponsors and the like. If the consumer or the business speaks with their wallet, then I don't see a problem with that. You can call it "tyranny of the masses" if you want to, but if no one watches Piers Morgan on CNN and he gets shitcanned, is that tyranny of the 2nd Amendment masses? Or did he just have a shitty show that not enough people wanted to watch? If a person owns a business and says they are racist and don't want minorities to buy their product...should minorities still buy their product anyway? Isn't that up to them? If Steve Jobs had been caught on tape at a shareholders meeting holdimg an i-phone and saying "Man, the average n^$^&@*& can't even turn one of these on, let alone make enough money to own one" would you blame them if they all went out and bought Androids? If you are in a business that solely relies on the general public for consumption (like a sports team) and you do certain things to alienate the consumer base...I don't see how there can't be inevitable consequences.
 
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