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Donald Sterling and his comments

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Jaxbuck said:
So it's really still the same old answer; as long as it's a group I am not in or don't like I can live with some rights being trampled here and there.
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His rights have not been violated. He essentially joined a club. The rules of that club enable the other members to remove him. He's getting exactly what he deserves and there's no violation of anything other than HIM violating their "code".
 
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This whole deal only goes to show what at joke the NAACP is that they were going to give this guy a lifetime achievement award. They know what a slime ball he was, that's why he was such a huge donor all these years, why do you think they turned their backs on Elgin Baylor, they fucking stabbed the person in the back that they were supposed to help because the jew racist was able to buy the off. they're a joke as if the likes of messy Jackson, Al Charlatan and Spike Lee.
I'm sure there's some kind of ethics clause somewhere in the owners handbook that allows them to take away his franchise though I'm sure he'll be compensated, he has to be. There's really very little punishment for him, he didn't break any laws. I feel sorry for his whore though, she broke a law plus if Donald really wants to be an ass he could probably sue her. I was out tonight and one of my black friends (yes by golly, some of my friends are black believe it or not) was like "well magic johnson should sue him for slander!". I told him, wtf do you mean, he didn't slander anyone.I'm seeing a lot of hilarious posts on facebook to. All in all I think Kareem had the best take on all of this. Everyone knew this guy was slime, even his own players but hey looked the other way because his checks don't bounce. The worst thing to happen to them (his player) was for this to come out because now they're forced to take a moral stand and risk losing their paychecks and you know they don't want that. Pretty much everyone involved in this mess ended up looking like asses, him for having said it and everyone else for looking the other way for so many years.
To address the mob rules scenario, how do you think that Hitler was able to slaughter so many? He was able to convince his people that thesede "other people" were the cause of Germany's misery and if only they were able to "get rid of the undesirables" thinks would be hunky dory. Hitler never could have pulled off what he pulled off without the help of millions of useful idiots.
 
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i'd be pissed if i had to do a forced sale.

lets say he bought the team for 12 million dollars.

now he sells it for say 512 million dollars.

500 million dollar taxable gain.

if he was a normal human being instead of one of the chosen few, he would be paying more than 100 million in taxes based off this.

me, i would make the league compensate me for my accelerated tax liability.

reality, rich people don't pay taxes, that is only for guys who work for a living, the free range slaves so to speak.


they call it an income tax yet tax people on their revenues. as if workers don't have expenses as human being going concerns.

reminder for the humanities majors out there, income = revenue - expenses.

my income is my pay minus what i spend, yet they tax me based on what i earn with no regard to my operating expenses (booze, chicks, food, gambling, etc).
 
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Jaxbuck said:
A guy who's opinions are unpopular has his private property taken from him because of it

You are a smart guy, you have to see the inherent dangers of letting that genie out of the bottle.
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But it's not really private property. It's not like they're taking away his house, or his yachts, or even his slum buildings. If it was his private property to do with as he pleases, he could move the franchise wherever he wants, whenever he wants. He could negotiate his own TV deals. He could name the franchise whatever he wants (that one would be interesting). But he can't do those things without league approval. It is not "property" to do with as he wishes when he buys it, as much as it is a franchise under the direction of a League power structure, including a Board of Governors. I do not pretend to be well-versed on the agreements that they sign to own a franchise under the auspices of the NBA or NFL or MLB (despite, you know, looking into it for all my extra billions :lol:), but I imagine there are parameters in place.

Make no mistake about it, Sterling isn't being shitcanned because he is a racist, he is being shitcanned because he will cost the team and the league money as long as he is the owner, and will cause an employee revolt if he is the owner. It's the same as the BK example. No, it wouldn't be BK yanking a franchise because "they disagree", it would be because having a franchise owned by an avowed racist would likely cost them money, both at that location and in general. People are free to say and think what they want...but they are not guaranteed to be free from consequences, including financial ones, of that speech.
 
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Bucklion said:
But it's not really private property. It's not like they're taking away his house, or his yachts, or even his slum buildings. If it was his private property to do with as he pleases, he could move the franchise wherever he wants, whenever he wants. He could negotiate his own TV deals. He could name the franchise whatever he wants (that one would be interesting). But he can't do those things without league approval. It is not "property" to do with as he wishes when he buys it, as much as it is a franchise under the direction of a League power structure, including a Board of Governors. I do not pretend to be well-versed on the agreements that they sign to own a franchise under the auspices of the NBA or NFL or MLB (despite, you know, looking into it for all my extra billions :lol:), but I imagine there are parameters in place.

Make no mistake about it, Sterling isn't being [Mark May]canned because he is a racist, he is being [Mark May]canned because he will cost the team and the league money as long as he is the owner, and will cause an employee revolt if he is the owner. It's the same as the BK example. No, it wouldn't be BK yanking a franchise because "they disagree", it would be because having a franchise owned by an avowed racist would likely cost them money, both at that location and in general. People are free to say and think what they want...but they are not guaranteed to be free from consequences, including financial ones, of that speech.
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The NAACP had no idea that this guy was so racist when they were all set to give him a lifetime achievement award :wink:
 
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DubCoffman62 said:
The NAACP had no idea that this guy was so racist when they were all set to give him a lifetime achievement award :wink:
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Hey, we get it. The NAACP is a stupid organization. Nobody is disagreeing with you. You can stop banging that fucking drum now.

(It's okay - I can use that expression. I am part Native American.)
 
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Bucklion said:
Make no mistake about it, Sterling isn't being [Mark May]canned because he is a racist, he is being [Mark May]canned because he will cost the team and the league money as long as he is the owner, and will cause an employee revolt if he is the owner. It's the same as the BK example. No, it wouldn't be BK yanking a franchise because "they disagree", it would be because having a franchise owned by an avowed racist would likely cost them money, both at that location and in general. People are free to say and think what they want...but they are not guaranteed to be free from consequences, including financial ones, of that speech.
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THIS, THIS, THIS. And for all those freaking out about Sterling's "rights" being trampled, wake me up when the government gets involved. Sterling's always been an asshole, and may well be even more misogynist than he is racist, but only now is his assholishness enough of a threat to his fellow owners' business interests to get them to act against him. If his CONTRACTUAL rights with the NBA are in fact being trampled, and I have no idea what his franchise agreement says or what any other NBA ownership rules or standards that he agreed to meet are, then he'll get his day in court if he wants it. My own suspicion is that the NBA negotiated this seemingly severe punishment with his lawyers and that there won't be litigation. Alternatively, NBA counsel presumably know exactly what they can and can't do to him without violating his franchise agreement and whatever other contracts might apply and determined that he committed sufficient breaches to allow them to drop the hammer on him.
 
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Jagdaddy said:
THIS, THIS, THIS. And for all those freaking out about Sterling's "rights" being trampled, wake me up when the government gets involved. Sterling's always been an asshole, and may well be even more misogynist than he is racist, but only now is his assholishness enough of a threat to his fellow owners' business interests to get them to act against him. If his CONTRACTUAL rights with the NBA are in fact being trampled, and I have no idea what his franchise agreement says or what any other NBA ownership rules or standards that he agreed to meet are, then he'll get his day in court if he wants it. My own suspicion is that the NBA negotiated this seemingly severe punishment with his lawyers and that there won't be litigation. Alternatively, NBA counsel presumably know exactly what they can and can't do to him without violating his franchise agreement and whatever other contracts might apply and determined that he committed sufficient breaches to allow them to drop the hammer on him.
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I wonder if the DNC will stop accepting his donations :wink:
 
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