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Do You Believe People are Basically Evil?

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Everyone knows pure evil only exists past Neptune.

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(I tried real hard to find a clip of them saying pure evil in this movie but with no luck, one of the funniest unintentional one liners ever in my opinion)
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1106128; said:
Subjective evil exists. Objective evil does not.
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I must admit that I tend to default to that way of thinking, as much of what we think of as wrong is merely societal norms conditioning. But in the example of a person who loves to torture others.....there is no gain to be had, as a thief or robber would. No value of even a marginal kind, as a cannibal could be said to be obtaining nourishment.

In that example, it seems to me to be objectively evil. Now, I guess to be clear, we can make it clear that no masochists are the victims. I dunno BKB, but causing pain to others with no gain to anyone other than your delight in their pain seems to meet the evil test.
 
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Gatorubet;1106138; said:
I must admit that I tend to default to that way of thinking, as much of what we think of as wrong is merely societal norms conditioning. But in the example of a person who loves to torture others.....there is no gain to be had, as a thief or robber would. No value of even a marginal kind, as a cannibal could be said to be obtaining nourishment.

In that example, it seems to me to be objectively evil. Now, I guess to be clear, we can make it clear that no masochists are the victims. I dunno BKB, but causing pain to others with no gain to anyone other than your delight in their pain seems to meet the evil test.
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There is gain to be had. You said it yourself - "causing pain to others with no gain to anyone other than your delight in their pain" I, of course, don't find this reason personally convincing, but in the nature of subjective v. objective, Evil remains subjective.
 
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Best Buckeye;1106124; said:
Yes I do . Now answer the question please , Do you believe that evil exists?
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Yes, I believe evil exists. I believe it exists as a concept, not as a definitive article. I don't believe that what you might consider evil and what I might consider evil are one and the same. It's a concept, an idea, a mutable fashion, a subjective definition that changes to match social mores from epoch to epoch, from society to society, from individual to individual.

Does my agreeing with you that as in ideation it does exist make you feel better about your belief, does it strengthen your reality? It shouldn't because this sort of subjective item should depend solely on an individual's force of belief.


Evil is a moral line. As such, it is set, each era, in each society, by what the conventions of the current social line has subjectively defined as bad or beyond bad. As Ryn said, what is bad in one situation, is pure survival in another. We in America consider suicide bombing evil. In an extremist Islam society, suicide bombing is considered to be a glory path straight to God.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1106142; said:
There is gain to be had. You said it yourself - "causing pain to others with no gain to anyone other than your delight in their pain" I, of course, don't find this reason personally convincing, but in the nature of subjective v. objective, Evil remains subjective.
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As I believe, it's an opinion.

This is Gator's opinion of what evil ius. But, I mean, seriously fucking with someone who says something incredibly naive online and humiliating them would define a person as "evil." I think it defines me as "bored."

In order for something to be evil, the opinion of people who hear about or witness the acts will define it as such, but there will always be people who argue that definition.

Old Buckeye used the example of stealing food to feed children, but I am sure the person who is robbed feels as if someone committed an evil act in trying to prevent them from advancing in life, either by eating or by financial gain.

BKB used the best term, evil is a subjective concept.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1106142; said:
There is gain to be had. You said it yourself - "causing pain to others with no gain to anyone other than your delight in their pain" I, of course, don't find this reason personally convincing, but in the nature of subjective v. objective, Evil remains subjective.
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Hmmmmm. Well, what about this?
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OCBuckWife;1106144; said:
Yes, I believe evil exists. quote]
This is all that matters to the question of does it exist or not. Most people do believe it exists. A lot of cultures believe it exists in objects and animals inherently. Now the thread was relating to "do you believe it is inherent'
whether it does or not exist , do you believe it to be?.
conditions should not enter into this answer, only what you believe, keeping in mind that your belief isn't necessarily true.
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1106142; said:
There is gain to be had. You said it yourself - "causing pain to others with no gain to anyone other than your delight in their pain" I, of course, don't find this reason personally convincing, but in the nature of subjective v. objective, Evil remains subjective.
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So I CAN mock the kidnapping and death of Christian Bishops and be okey-doke?:tongue2:
 
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