Best Buckeye;1106154; said:So did you keep the same name over there?
No... over there I'm Wolverineskickbuttocks...
OK... that was weird to type.... forget I said that.
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Best Buckeye;1106154; said:So did you keep the same name over there?
Best Buckeye;1106148; said:This question does not exist.
Too late, I already sent it to the spammers.Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1106155; said:No... over there I'm Wolverineskickbuttocks...
OK... that was weird to type.... forget I said that.
Best Buckeye;1106148; said:OCBuckWife;1106144; said:Yes, I believe evil exists. quote]
I'm sorry, but this post needs to be clarified. To quote me out of context belittles your argument right from the start. Address individual points if you wish to successfully debate the issue.This is all that matters to the question of does it exist or not. Most people do believe it exists. A lot of cultures believe it exists in objects and animals inherently.
Now the thread was relating to "do you believe it is inherent'
whether it does or not exist , do you believe it to be?.
To say it exists or not seems to me to be relative and subjective, as I have been debating in previous posts. I have answered this question already, and if you are unable to further delineate what about my answer you do not agree with than further productive debate may be impossible.
conditions should not enter into this answer, only what you believe, keeping in mind that your belief isn't necessarily true.
You appear to be using this statement as a definitive fact. It doesn't change the subjective reality of the definition of "evil." Where are you going with this? Conditions are part and parcel to subjective statements by definition. You seem to be arguing against your own point when you admit that what you believe is not necessarily what is truth. Did I not point out earlier in the discussion that truth with regards to the concept of evil is mutable?
OCBuckWife;1106158; said:Best Buckeye;1106148; said:Thats all hogwash, you state that you believe it exists, How can I take that out of context?OCBuckWife;1106144; said:Yes, I believe evil exists. quote]
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beyond that all I am saying is that applying certain conditions to it doesn't matter. You believe it exists thats it no need to explain any further.
Ie. 1 + 1 = 2 . no need for explainations
I can't because I believe he exists too.OCBucksFan;1106165; said:Spiderman exists, I believe he exists, it's my belief, how can you argue it?
Best Buckeye;1106163; said:OCBuckWife;1106158; said:Best Buckeye;1106148; said:Thats all hogwash, you state that you believe it exists, How can I take that out of context?
beyond that all I am saying is that applying certain conditions to it doesn't matter. You believe it exists thats it no need to explain any further.
Ie. 1 + 1 = 2 . no need for explainations
Why is this basic concept so difficult for you old brain to comprehend? I am not debating the existence or the non-existence of evil. I am stating that the idea of evil is subjective and therefore defined by an individual's belief and comprehension of what acts must be seen as evil. Simply to say, "yes I believe evil exists" does not make MY evil the same as YOUR evil. It agrees that evil, as a concept, exists, yes but we have, you and I, already established this subjective agreement between ourselves. Is this debate continuing somewhere beyond this previously agreed upon idea or are you going to continue to beat this no longer living equidae physical embodiment?
Taosman;1103981; said:This is kind of a off shoot of "Moment of Truth" tv show that seems to take a cynical view that people have no moral values.
OCBuckWife;1106170; said:Best Buckeye;1106163; said:Exactly. It doesn't matter if our definitions are or aren't the same it only matters if you think it exists and once admiting that it does then you are qualified to answer the question of the thread. your concept nor mine have nothing to do with it, only your opinion in answering the thread question.OCBuckWife;1106158; said:Why is this basic concept so difficult for you old brain to comprehend? I am not debating the existence or the non-existence of evil. I am stating that the idea of evil is subjective and therefore defined by an individual's belief and comprehension of what acts must be seen as evil. Simply to say, "yes I believe evil exists" does not make MY evil the same as YOUR evil. It agrees that evil, as a concept, exists, yes but we have, you and I, already established this subjective agreement between ourselves. Is this debate continuing somewhere beyond this previously agreed upon idea or are you going to continue to beat this no longer living equidae physical embodiment?
OCBuckWife;1106158; said:Why is this basic concept so difficult for you old brain to comprehend? I am not debating the existence or the non-existence of evil. I am stating that the idea of evil is subjective and therefore defined by an individual's belief and comprehension of what acts must be seen as evil. Simply to say, "yes I believe evil exists" does not make MY evil the same as YOUR evil. It agrees that evil, as a concept, exists, yes but we have, you and I, already established this subjective agreement between ourselves. Is this debate continuing somewhere beyond this previously agreed upon idea or are you going to continue to beat this no longer living equidae physical embodiment?
Some evil cheese taste s like poop....... I imagineOCBucksFan;1106177; said:Cheese makes your poop evil.