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Best Buckeye;740206; said:I vote no . Marino didn't either because he never played well enough to win one. That is the deciding factor. If Manning deserves one it is because he and his team play well enough to win it.
I think you missed his point. Cb6 clarified the topic here:MililaniBuckeye;740348; said:So, Manning played lights out and Marion didn't, so since Marino didn't win his SB Manning doesn't deserve his win...what the fuck kind of logic is that?
Cornerback6;740292; said:Maybe for some people the thread would have been better titled, "Do veteran superstars deserve championships?"...but Peyton won one tonight and it made me think of him specifically and how people all around me kept saying he deserved one because he's been SO close SO many times.
the question is " if a person never won one did they deserve one" no matter how long they played. My answer was they have to win it , not get one just because they played a long time.Cornerback6;740197; said:Everyone knows people who say that the legends who never won it all "deserved to win one". i.e. Dan Marino or Charles Barkley. Do you agree with this concept? .
Best Buckeye;740354; said:the question is " if a person never won one did they deserve one" no matter how long they played. My answer was they have to win it , not get one just because they played a long time.
Why, because he actually answered the topic at hand?MililaniBuckeye;740366; said:Actually, the question should be, "Just how big of a dipshit is Best Buckeye"?
Best Buckeye;740233; said:I am of the school that says no one deserves anything just for longevity. The only way to "deserve " it is to win it.
jwinslow;740369; said:Why, because he actually answered the topic at hand?
This hypothetical is about what Manning (& Marino) deserved for being "close'... much like is said about Karl Malone (tibor's current whipping boy).Cornerback6;740292; said:Maybe for some people the thread would have been better titled, "Do veteran superstars deserve championships?"...but Peyton won one tonight and it made me think of him specifically and how people all around me kept saying he deserved one because he's been SO close SO many times.
Best Buckeye;740206; said:I vote no . Marino didn't either because he never played well enough to win one. That is the deciding factor. If Manning deserves one it is because he and his team play well enough to win it. Of course having Grossman on the other team helped a lot.![]()
I agree completely with Best Buckeye. Marino & Manning deserve nothing for being close. They deserve what they earn on the field, which Manning did today.Best Buckeye;740233; said:I am of the school that says no one deserves anything just for longevity. The only way to "deserve " it is to win it.
Uh, doesn't the thread title set forth what the thread is about? The thread title specifically says, quote: " Did Peyton Manning "DESERVE" a SB Victory?" Pretty damn clear to me...jwinslow;740378; said:Mili, this topic is not about what Manning did today... it's an obscure topic which is further muddled by the title.
There's your problem...jwinslow;740378; said:I agree completely with Best Buckeye.
So the thread creator is also wrong about what the thread is about?MililaniBuckeye;740379; said:Uh, doesn't the thread title set forth what the hread is about? The thread title specifically says, quote: " Did Peyton Manning "DESERVE" a SB Victory?" Pretty damn clear to me...
No CB6, Peyton nor Manning did not deserve a title b/c he's been so close so many times.[/Best Buckeye]Cornerback6;740292; said:Maybe for some people the thread would have been better titled, "Do veteran superstars deserve championships?"...but Peyton won one tonight and it made me think of him specifically and how people all around me kept saying he deserved one because he's been SO close SO many times.
jwinslow;740380; said:So the thread creator is also wrong about what the thread is about?