Decanonized Mythologized Disgraced Ped State Monster Coach Joe Paterno (Zombie Icon)

[ORD_Buckeye]

July 12, 2012: Paterno's legacy lies in tatters......

...and not a single fuck is given by Amos Alonzo Stagg.

 

[Buckrock]

Mornin' guys and gals. Just woke up. Something going on?

 

[Oh8ch]

Penn State has given us decades of football memories that we will cherish forever. Just beacuse of some ugly legal business doesnt mean the unforgettable victories, historic plays and amazing teamwork of our Lions should be any less in our hearts !!
JoPa was a HERO. Don't care about nothin' else. Nuff said!
Go Lions! You guys are the REAL heroes!!!

The trolls now run that board.

 

[cincibuck]

Would that I could photo shop. I could have a great time with these two images:

 

[LightningRod]

Perhaps the Joe crowd will take up a collection to create Hologram Joe that will lead the team onto the field and pace the sideline every home game.

 

[Muck]

Woody Hayes was a great man. Flawed, but a tremendous person, coach, and mentor to many, many young men. He's a hero of mine. That said, if the Ohio State University's entire identity was wrapped up in his legacy, I'd be fucking ashamed.

More importantly Woody would be ashamed.

Penn State's cover up is reprehensible and in no way should the harm done to victims of child rape be compared to the harm done because a coach lied to NCAA investigators.

Ohio State discovered that Coach Tressel knew about the situation with the players and then immediately informed the NCAA.
Penn State discovered that Jerry Sandusky was raping children and immediately consulted Joe Paterno as to whether they should inform anyone else.

That is the real apples to apples comparison.

 

[cincibuck]

COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

Leon Festinger is a psychologist who studied groups that predicted the end of the world. He found that most members became stronger than ever when the prophecy failed. His investigation revealed that members had to find a way to cope psychologically with the failure. They needed to maintain order and meaning in their life. They needed to think they were acting according to their self-image and values. Festinger described this contradiction which they had to overcome as what has become known as the COGNITIVE DISSONANCE THEORY. The three components he described are:

CONTROL OF BEHAVIOUR CONTROL OF THOUGHTS CONTROL OF EMOTIONS

Each component has a powerful effect on the other two: CHANGE ONE AND THE OTHERS WILL TEND TO FOLLOW. When all three change the individual undergoes a complete change. Festinger summarised the basic principle:

"If you change a person's behaviour, his thoughts and feelings will change to minimise the dissonance."

When there is a conflict between thoughts, feelings or behaviour, then those in conflict will change to minimise the contradiction. This is because a person can only tolerate a certain amount of discrepancy between these components which make up his identity. In cults this dissonance is created to exploit and control them.

Steven Hassan, author of Combating Cult Mind Control, added a fourth component to Festinger's:

CONTROL OF INFORMATION

By controlling the information one receives you can control and restrict the individual's ability to think for himself. You limit what he is able to think about.

BEHAVIOUR CONTROL The control of an individual's physical reality.

This can include control of where he lives, what he eats, his clothing, sleep, job, rituals etc. This is why most cults have a stringent schedule for members. There is always something to do in destructive cults. Each cult has its own distinctive set of behaviours that bind it together. This control is so powerful that the cult member will actually participate in their own punishment and come to believe he actually deserves it! No one can command a person?s thoughts but IF YOU CAN CONTROL BEHAVIOUR THEN HEARTS AND MINDS WILL FOLLOW.

THOUGHT CONTROL The control of an individual's thought processes

The indoctrination of members so thoroughly that they will manipulate their own thought processes. The ideology is internalised as "the truth". Incoming information is filtered through the beliefs which also regulates how this information is thought about. The cult has it?s own language which further regulates how a person thinks. This puts a great barrier between cult members and outsiders.

Another form of control is "thought stopping" techniques. This can take many forms: chanting, meditating, singing, humming, tongues (some even pay money to learn it), concentrated praying, etc. The use of these techniques short-circuits the persons' ability to test reality. The person can only think positive thoughts about the group. If there is a problem the member assumes responsibility and works harder.

EMOTIONAL CONTROL The control of the individuals emotional life

This manipulates a person?s range of feelings. Guilt and fear are used to keep control. Cult members cannot see the control by guilt and like other abuse victims are conditioned to blame themselves when things are wrong, even grateful when a leader points our their transgressions.

Fear is used to manipulate two ways. The first is to create an outside enemy (we vs them) who is persecuting you. The second is the fear of punishment by the leaders if you are not "good enough." Being "good enough" is following the ideology perfectly. The most powerful emotional control is phobia indoctrination. This can give the person a panic reaction at the very thought of leaving the group. It is almost impossible to conceive that there is any life outside the group. There is no physical gun held to their heads but the psychological gun is just as if not more powerful.

INFORMATION CONTROL The control of the individuals information sources

Deny a person the information needed to make a sound judgment and he will be incapable of doing so. People are trapped in cults because they are denied both the access to the critical information they need to assess their situation. The psychological chains on their minds are just as powerful as if they were locked away physically from society. So strong is this psychological process they also lack the properly functioning internal mechanism to process any critical information placed in front of them.

THE EIGHT MARKS OF MIND CONTROL TOTALISM ALL OR NOTHING

Mind Control is a PROCESS of eradicating former beliefs and instituting new beliefs in their place through the use of COERCIVE persuasion. It is a PROCESS which is designed to break a person's independence and individuality and replace it with the ideology clone. The Chinese called this process "thought reform" which was poorlytranslated into English as "brain-washing".

 

[TDunk]

Looks like the Freeh report just cost Ped State U a lot of money.

 

[Muck]

I need serious counseling.

Have you considered the BWI/McAndrews resident Shrink?

A little perspective from around the country via the top NY Times comments just in case we are all biased in our opinions on this issue:

Nope, it would appear that the opinions expressed here are universal.

Kinda funny given that the NYT comments section is exactly the same sort of insular echo chamber that allowed the horrors at PSU to continue.

WTF. Did they read the same report as the rest of the world?

Nope, the channel got switched remember?

 

[VBSJ]

Now that Jay Paterno is making the media rounds, are there any guesses on future employment for Jay?

He can't hang onto his father's legacy, since it's been so damaged, so public speaking and other "Rudy-like" events are out.

I don't think a major collegiate program would hire him.

High school coach? NAIA coach? Division I-AA coach?

 

[NFBuck]

Now that Jay Paterno is making the media rounds, are there any guesses on future employment for Jay?

He can't hang onto his father's legacy, since it's been so damaged, so public speaking and other "Rudy-like" events are out.

I don't think a major collegiate program would hire him.

High school coach? NAIA coach? Division I-AA coach?

I'm thinking bagger at the local supermarket.

 

[Muck]

Now that Jay Paterno is making the media rounds, are there any guesses on future employment for Jay?

He can't hang onto his father's legacy, since it's been so damaged, so public speaking and other "Rudy-like" events are out.

I don't think a major collegiate program would hire him.

High school coach? NAIA coach? Division I-AA coach?

Penn State administrator.

 

[cincibuck]

I'm thinking bagger at the local supermarket.

Walmart Greeter?

 

[VBSJ]

Penn State administrator.

I thought they'd disassociate, but they didn't disassociate with Jerry Sandusky, so that's very much a possibility.

 

[PlanetFrnd]

Now that Jay Paterno is making the media rounds, are there any guesses on future employment for Jay?

He can't hang onto his father's legacy, since it's been so damaged, so public speaking and other "Rudy-like" events are out.

I don't think a major collegiate program would hire him.

High school coach? NAIA coach? Division I-AA coach?

He could probably still sell alot of used cars or something in [strike]State[/strike] [Community] College