Decanonized Mythologized Disgraced Ped State Monster Coach Joe Paterno (Zombie Icon)

[BuckeyeNation27]

But I also have some sympathy for Paterno, a man who evidently found it difficult to reconcile the acts that were reported to him with twenty years of experience with a man he thought was caring and morally upright. This kid of conflict (often referred to as cognitive dissonance) can paralyze one's usual decision process.

In 1999, but after the '98 season's bowl game and also after the police eavesdrop and hear Sandusky all but admit to molesting a young boy, Sandusky retires from coaching. Up until that point, he was the heir apparent to Joe Paterno......the Defensive Coordinator of a team with some pretty beastly defenses. He up and retires, out of the blue. 4 years later, McQuery is at Paterno's house telling him he saw Sandusky in the showers with a young boy doing inappropriate things.

Allow me to connect some dots. Paterno knew about the '99 event and forced Sandusky to retire. the '02 event was not the first time Paterno heard of his DC molesting children....and it would have been an "oh crap not again" moment, not "how can my friend be capable of this" moment.

But let's pretend it was cognitive dissonance that paralyzed Paterno into not doing all that he should have. When nothing happened....why was McQuery not questioned further or straight up fired? If the terrible news of your friend possibly being a child molester causes your brain to short out.....how do you not punish the person who came to you with that news if you ultimately believe it to be false?

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Bull[Mark May]. I have not told you or anyone "what emotions you have a right to." In fact I share many of those same emotions. What I HAVE said is that continual trumpeting of what a horrible person Joe Paterno is, and how you would have done things so much differently, on a sports message board is self-important and self-congratulatory, neither of which is very attractive. Not to mention most of us really have no fucking clue what we would do faced with Paterno's specific experience. But angry? Of course you, I, and everyone else, are entitled to this emotion, along with disgust, dismay, whatever.

Don't attribute to me things I have never said.

care to respond to my post highlighting your self-righteous hypocrisy?

 

[MaxBuck]

Lot of people have engaged in what I've called an orgy of self-congratulation relative to their willingness to post criticisms on a fan message board. If you have ever been in a similar situation and behaved differently, either intervening directly or hammering at the police until the perp was arrested, then you have a right to express this sort of vitriol. Otherwise, I think the best response is self-examination, along with gratitude that we have not been faced with such a thing.

care to respond to my post highlighting your self-righteous hypocrisy?

Your point here seems to be that I'm occasionally hypocritical.

You're right. Can't argue with that. Pretty much everyone is, from time to time. The fact that I can at times engage in a behavior doesn't make it any more attractive.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

But let's pretend it was cognitive dissonance that paralyzed Paterno into not doing all that he should have. When nothing happened....why was McQuery not questioned further or straight up fired? If the terrible news of your friend possibly being a child molester causes your brain to short out.....how do you not punish the person who came to you with that news if you ultimately believe it to be false?

[maxbuck]

Joe Paterno + cognitive dissonance = understandable insufficient reaction

Mike McQueary + cognitive dissonance = despicable fuckwit and cowardly little twat

[/maxbuck]

 

[AKAK]

Enough. Back to the dead black shoed pants shitter.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Your point here seems to be that I'm occasionally hypocritical.

You're right. Can't argue with that. Pretty much everyone is, from time to time. The fact that I can at times engage in a behavior doesn't make it any more attractive.

do you admit that you're being a hypocrite now? if so, don't you recognize how much of an ass you are when you are knowingly a hypocrite and lecturing the board.

 

[Mike80]

My suggestion for the split title: Emotional Hypocritical fucktwitisms

 

[Bucklion]

Always sad how deaths of public figures tend to bring out the worst in people.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Huge difference between "not showing sympathy" and repeatedly trumpeting how morally superior you are to a man who made a grievous error in judgment but also did much to help many people over his lifetime.

First, I don't see many trumpeting their moral superiority. Second, it's not a simple "grievous error in judgment" but a sustained refusal to take action against a pedophile on his staff and his tolerating that pedophile being around and involved the program for over a decade after the fact.

But I also have some sympathy for Paterno, a man who evidently found it difficult to reconcile the acts that were reported to him with twenty years of experience with a man he thought was caring and morally upright.

Bullshit. If Paterno had a soul he would've turn Sandusky in to the cops. If I found out my best friend in my whole life had just sexually assaulted a child, then I'd turn him in to the cops in a heart beat, all the while fighting the urge to off him myself.

 

[MaxBuck]

Well, since I have evidently been so offensive, let me apologize profusely to all the wonderful, saintly people who have demonstrated the excellence of their virtue by their repeated criticisms of Joe Paterno.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

 

[Mike80]

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

Well, since I have evidently been so offensive, let me apologize profusely to all the wonderful, saintly people who have demonstrated the excellence of their virtue by their repeated criticisms of Joe Paterno.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

we'd settle for silence instead of preaching despite acknowledged hypocrisy.

 

[Buckeyeskickbuttocks]

Cheese makes my poop hard

 

[NFBuck]

Cheese makes my poop hard

Interesting. What does yogurt do to it?

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

Well, since I have evidently been so offensive, let me apologize profusely to all the wonderful, saintly people who have demonstrated the excellence of their virtue by their repeated criticisms of Joe Paterno.

Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Apology not accepted. Fuckwit.