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DE Vernon Gholston (Official Thread)

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Well Bill Polian likes him but what does he know about building an NFL team. I guess we better take the words of a bunch of anonymous front office personnel (no way they would lie to reporters leading up to the draft.) and a bunch of blowhards who can't crack the b team lineup to host sportscenter.
 
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This guy is a great player. Tons of athleticism and strength. Reminds me of Shawn Merriman a little and I think he could make a similar impact at the next level. As a Dolphins fan it was either him or Jake Long that I wanted. I expect Gholston to be a stud.:biggrin::)
 
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Bestbuck36;1147477; said:
Yeah, I'm a Dolphins fan also and we may have to deal with Vern for the next 10 years as a freaking Patriot or Jet. :smash:
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True. But if you take a look at all the great teams in this league, they all have a top notch left tackle. That is something we were desperately missing. From what I've gathered about Jake Long, and I admit I don't know as much as you all most likely, he is a great run blocking left tackle and rarely gives up a sack (3) or called for a penalty (2). Sounds like a keeper to me. So I can't really complain with this pick.

Another thing to remember is we also have the 32nd overall pick (2nd round pick; NE lost the 31st pick in the 1st round due to spygate). It will be really interesting to see which direction we go with this pick. Knowing Bill he will probably take a defensive player. We did let go Zack Thomas so a Linebacker is a possibility. We shall see.:biggrin:
 
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I'm hearing some terrible things about that #32 pick. I know Bill wants to get back into the 1st round and Jason Taylor may be the catalyst for that if it comes about. There are several rumors about what we may be doing. The first rumor is, I hate it, that we are going to trade back into the bottom of round #1 and take Chad freaking Henne. BOOOOOOO!!!!!!

The other rumor is that Bill wants to get his pass rusher in the bottom of the 1st round which could be Phillip Merling or Calais Campbell whichever is available. Another possibility there is Quentin Groves. If we trade into this spot and pick up a good pass rusher I'll take it. No to Chad Henne anywhere before the 5th round!

What I want from #32 is Dan Connor if he is available to take Zachs spot. Then next year we can draft James Laurinaitis with our first pick and have two incredible middle backers for the 3-4 defense and move Channing Crowder back outside where he's better suited and get rid of Joey Porter. The offense will be much improved this year and the defense will start to be very good within 2 years.

Back to Big Vern!

What I really want to do is package JT and some picks to get back up into the top 5 and take Big Vern this year and Connor at #32. Greatest draft ever if that could happen!
 
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Bestbuck36;1147502; said:
I'm hearing some terrible things about that #32 pick. I know Bill wants to get back into the 1st round and Jason Taylor may be the catalyst for that if it comes about. There are several rumors about what we may be doing. The first rumor is, I hate it, that we are going to trade back into the bottom of round #1 and take Chad freaking Henne. BOOOOOOO!!!!!!

The other rumor is that Bill wants to get his pass rusher in the bottom of the 1st round which could be Phillip Merling or Calais Campbell whichever is available. Another possibility there is Quentin Groves. If we trade into this spot and pick up a good pass rusher I'll take it. No to Chad Henne anywhere before the 5th round!

What I want from #32 is Dan Connor if he is available to take Zachs spot. Then next year we can draft James Laurinaitis with our first pick and have two incredible middle backers for the 3-4 defense and move Channing Crowder back outside where he's better suited and get rid of Joey Porter. The offense will be much improved this year and the defense will start to be very good within 2 years.

Back to Big Vern!

What I really want to do is package JT and some picks to get back up into the top 5 and take Big Vern this year and Connor at #32. Greatest draft ever if that could happen!
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I know man I'm a Bills season ticket holder and that rumor was blowing up about Henne. I would love it as I could play my "Chad Henne is MF Bitch" song by the Dead Schembechlers while tailgating in Buffalo :biggrin: Henne to Ginn (is this a nightmare!?!?!?!) Alot of draft gurus are out there bashing Vern the last couple of days, saying he took games off. He was second in the country w/ sacks right? I was hoping my Bills would get him but no way he drops. I think he'll be a Kansas City Chief even though they need O-Line help I think they'll look to replace Jared Allen. But enjoy the season with your Michigan errrrrrr I mean Miami Dolphins :biggrin:.
 
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Bestbuck36;1147502; said:
I'm hearing some terrible things about that #32 pick. I know Bill wants to get back into the 1st round and Jason Taylor may be the catalyst for that if it comes about. There are several rumors about what we may be doing. The first rumor is, I hate it, that we are going to trade back into the bottom of round #1 and take Chad freaking Henne. BOOOOOOO!!!!!!

The other rumor is that Bill wants to get his pass rusher in the bottom of the 1st round which could be Phillip Merling or Calais Campbell whichever is available. Another possibility there is Quentin Groves. If we trade into this spot and pick up a good pass rusher I'll take it. No to Chad Henne anywhere before the 5th round!

What I want from #32 is Dan Connor if he is available to take Zachs spot. Then next year we can draft James Laurinaitis with our first pick and have two incredible middle backers for the 3-4 defense and move Channing Crowder back outside where he's better suited and get rid of Joey Porter. The offense will be much improved this year and the defense will start to be very good within 2 years.

Back to Big Vern!

What I really want to do is package JT and some picks to get back up into the top 5 and take Big Vern this year and Connor at #32. Greatest draft ever if that could happen!
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Phillip Merling, Calais Campbell, or Quentin Groves could be available at the 32nd pick. If they were we would probably take one of those guys. I hope JT spends the rest of his career in a Miami Dolphins uniform but if that doesn't happen, trading him is a distinct possibility. I'm excited regardless for the draft this weekend. I'm expecting something crazy to go down. If it involves the Dolphins, who knows.

But I would love to have Vern.:biggrin:
 
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gators312414;1147508; said:
Phillip Merling, Calais Campbell, or Quentin Groves could be available at the 32nd pick. If they were we would probably take one of those guys. I hope JT spends the rest of his career in a Miami Dolphins uniform but if that doesn't happen, trading him is a distinct possibility. I'm excited regardless for the draft this weekend. I'm expecting something crazy to go down. If it involves the Dolphins, who knows.

But I would love to have Vern.:biggrin:
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You guys got Ted Ginn last year, don't get greedy.
 
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As much as I hate Michigan etc. etc. the dolphins did the right thing by taking Jake Long. They needed to address their piss poor o-line. Drafting an OL is not the sexy pick but if you want to win it's the smart pick. Look at the dramatic difference Joe Thomas brought to my Brownies winning last year. When you don't address your line in the draft it eventually shows up on how you play on the field. Now since they addressed the OL Miami can turn their attention to the DL.
 
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GHOLSTON, LONG PERFECT FOR JETS


By MARK CANNIZZARO

April 24, 2008 -- James Laurinaitis has no say about which player the Jets select with their No. 6 overall in Saturday's NFL Draft first round.
But he has as keen an insight on two of the players who are highest on the Jets' radar as anyone.
Laurinaitis, a linebacker at Ohio State, is very close to two players whom the Jets covet and could be available to them when their pick arrives - Ohio State's Vernon Gholston and Virginia's Chris Long.
Gholston is Laurinaitis' teammate at Ohio State. Long has become a good friend, a friendship forged after the two roomed together at a Playboy All-Star game camp.
Laurinaitis, whose father, Joe, was nicknamed, Joe "The Animal" Laurinaitis as a professional wrestler, yesterday offered The Post his insights on the two soon-to-be-NFL first-round picks.
"Vern is one of the only players I've met that can say during the week that he's going to dominate and then go out and really do it in the game on Saturday," Laurinaitis said. "His physical ability and strength is unbelievable and he's a hard-working kid. What Vern wants to do he can do. He'll bull right through anyone we've seen. He's proven that over and over in his career."
As a player who's played with a number of teammates who've gone on to success in the NFL, such as Jets C Nick Mangold, Laurinaitis was asked what kind of pro he believes Gholston will be.
"I think Vern is going to be a guy that can make a major impact right away," he said.
Laurinaitis and Long, the son of former Raiders' DE Howie Long, hit it off from the moment they met and have remained close.




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Top prospect Gholston had to grow up fast
By TIM GRAHAM
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Thursday, April 24, 2008

Every time he cradled him, his father was easier to pick up.

The son, barely sprouting facial hair, grew stronger. Dad became progressively weaker.

Vernon Nelson's body was withering because of an aggressive form of multiple sclerosis. Unable to move, he relied on his oldest boy to lift him from bed and ease him into a chair.

Nelson caught a cold, developed pneumonia and died in December 1999. He was 48.

The son was 13. Already physically impressive enough to be mistaken for an adult, Vernon Gholston suddenly had to be a man - taking care of himself and his little brother in Detroit while their mother, Cheryl, worked the General Motors assembly line.

"I always worked the afternoon shift so I could make sure my boys got to school in the morning, make sure they got home from school," Cheryl Gholston said. "From then on, Vernon was in charge."

Vernon Gholston now is 21, and to say he's all grown up would be an understatement.

Gholston is a 6-foot-4, 258-pound pass rusher from Ohio State who soon will become a multi-millionaire. Saturday, at the NFL Draft in New York, he'll learn which team will sign his checks.

Gholston is among the select group of six college players the NFL invited to attend the draft at Radio City Music Hall. As much as scouts and draft experts marvel at Gholston's sculpted body, they also praise his maturity.

The source of that composure is something not often discussed.

"It made me better, having to look after my brother," Gholston said. Brandon Gholston, 19, is studying mental health at Wayne County Community College in Michigan.

"It made me a more responsible and disciplined person," the older brother continued. "These are all the attributes that have helped me in football, to make me work hard and study my playbook and want to get better.

"It also was being a responsible adult off the field. A lot of kids come to college are just that, doing a lot of things and getting trouble."
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Top prospect Gholston had to grow up fast
 
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ShakerBuck;1136718; said:
I think they said replacing Jay
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Jay got a lot of PT last year because both Kelly and Burgess dealt with injury. But he really stepped up. However I don't think the Raiders (my team) think he's a starter just yet. That coupled with the fact the Burgess is 30 and his sack total has gone down by 5 or more sacks the last two years (16, 11, 8) and he is in the final two years of his deal make me think that if we take Gholston, eventually Richardson and Gholston could be the starting ends, but initially it would be Gholston and Burgess with Richardson and Edwards rotating in. With Nnamdi Asomugha and and DeAngelo Hall covering the WRs, Gholston could set the rookie record for sacks in a season. I am also hoping the Raiders trade for Bobby Carpenter from Dallas, that would be sick to have 3 Buckeyes on our defense and Drew Carter on offense. I think BC would be much better playing strong side in our 4-3 than he has been with big D.

A lot of Raider fans are buying the "Gholston takes plays off" argument. I am not sure they understand what his responsibilities were.

Bestbuck36;1147477; said:
Yeah, I'm a Dolphins fan also and we may have to deal with Vern for the next 10 years as a freaking Patriot or Jet. :smash:
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If Chris Long is gone, which he likely will be, the Raiders will keep Vernn out of the AFC East for ya :wink:
 
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It pays to be a draftable defensive lineman By BARRY WILNER
AP Football Writer
NEW YORK (AP) -- Vernon Gholston dominated the Big Ten. Glenn Dorsey was an unstoppable force in the SEC. Chris Long made life miserable for blockers and ball carriers in the ACC.
All three could go at the top of Saturday's NFL draft, just behind Michigan offensive tackle Jake Long, who already has signed with Miami.
None is worried where he winds up.
"This isn't a recruiting process to me,'' said Chris Long, an All-America defensive end for Virginia and the son of Pro Football Hall of Famer Howie Long. "Wherever you go, you go. The process is not competitive. The draft is an achievement, but the real achievements you make on the field.''



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