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DE Noah Spence (Official Thread)

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SEREbuckeye said:
That wasn't the reason the suspension was reduced. Did you not read the Ozone article or did you just come to your own conclusion?

From the article:
"According to the report, Spence's father said the conference originally suspended Spence for a year because the Big Ten considers ecstasy a performance-enhancing drug.

The family appealed the suspension, and it was dropped to three games because the NCAA considers ecstasy a street drug, which carries a lesser penalty, the report states."
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No, I didn't read the article. I read the synopsis provided earlier in the thread by another poster:

OhioState001 said:
http://www.abc27.com/story/24385029/ohio-states-noah-spence-suspended-for-ecstasy-family-says

Story is much different from what we were told.

Was actually suspended a year for Ecstasy but got it down to 3 games because it was believed to be an accident.
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I believed that to be true since two pages have gone by this thread and many other posters like yourself who are more diligent readers than I am didn't bother to challenge it or correct it until now.

The ABC27 article states the same reason you did for the reason for the suspension being reduced. To be fair, who knows if it has been changed since the OP posted it here.
 
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jlb1705 said:
No, I didn't read the article. I read the synopsis provided earlier in the thread by another poster:



I believed that to be true since two pages have gone by this thread and many other posters like yourself who are more diligent readers than I am didn't bother to challenge it or correct it until now.

The ABC27 article states the same reason you did for the reason for the suspension being reduced. To be fair, who knows if it has been changed since the OP posted it here.
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Gotcha.

I think that if it was a case that he was handed a drink by a stranger at a party he have gotten off free and no suspension. If he were truly drugged by someone he would have likely went to the hospital as "X" is something that will bring on big time bodily reactions that could have killed him. IMO, you don't get drugged unknowingly and go through the reactions the drug brings on and not be curious as to what is going on.

My opinion, and my opinion only is that the kid took the street drug - like most college kids experiment at college parties - and probably hoped to hell it didn't show up. He got off light for only a 3 game suspension. I don't think the B1G is correct in assessing ecstasy to be a PED. The biggest worry Spence will have is being out longer than just 3 games or even not being a starter when he does return. Yeah, he sat the bowl game but Meyer has shown he has no problem with a "next man up mentality" and if he gets out-performed in the offseason and the first few games he may likely find himself 2nd string until he re-earns the starting role.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
I think that if it was a case that he was handed a drink by a stranger at a party he have gotten off free and no suspension. If he were truly drugged by someone he would have likely went to the hospital as "X" is something that will bring on big time bodily reactions that could have killed him. IMO, you don't get drugged unknowingly and go through the reactions the drug brings on and not be curious as to what is going on.
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That's entirely subjective and dependent on how much he ingested. A low dose could have just made him feel buzzed, if that.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
Gotcha.

I think that if it was a case that he was handed a drink by a stranger at a party he have gotten off free and no suspension. If he were truly drugged by someone he would have likely went to the hospital as "X" is something that will bring on big time bodily reactions that could have killed him. IMO, you don't get drugged unknowingly and go through the reactions the drug brings on and not be curious as to what is going on.

My opinion, and my opinion only is that the kid took the street drug - like most college kids experiment at college parties - and probably hoped to hell it didn't show up. He got off light for only a 3 game suspension. I don't think the B1G is correct in assessing ecstasy to be a PED. The biggest worry Spence will have is being out longer than just 3 games or even not being a starter when he does return. Yeah, he sat the bowl game but Meyer has shown he has no problem with a "next man up mentality" and if he gets out-performed in the offseason and the first few games he may likely find himself 2nd string until he re-earns the starting role.
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Had a roommate of mine- rugby player, British, big drinker- get an unholy level of drunk one time at one of our parties. Ended up having to help carry the bastard to bed and put him down because he was a mess.

He goes in to get his torn meniscus looked at a day or 2 later with his parents by his side. Not sure why, I'm not a doctorb, but they did blood work, and the doctor comes back and let's him know that he had Rohypnol in his system. He hadn't the slightest idea. Reaction in front of the parents must have been priceless.

I don't know the point of this, but yeah...college.
 
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SEREbuckeye said:
You must have missed the part where I said "my opinion and my opinion only". But thanks for pointing out the obvious.

Back to Spence.
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This sentence - "If he were truly drugged by someone he would have likely went to the hospital as "X" is something that will bring on big time bodily reactions that could have killed him." - shows me that it's not obvious to you. X is not guaranteed to cause a reaction that will be noticed by someone, especially when it's being handled by college kids who probably have no idea what they're doing. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact.

The more you know...
 
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Buckeye513 said:
This sentence - "If he were truly drugged by someone he would have likely went to the hospital as "X" is something that will bring on big time bodily reactions that could have killed him." - shows me that it's not obvious to you. X is not guaranteed to cause a reaction that will be noticed by someone, especially when it's being handled by college kids who probably have no idea what they're doing. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a fact.

The more you know...
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Its all subjective and matters of opinion on how much was ingested and how whether or not he took it knowingly.

Again, it was my OPINION that he took it knowingly because if he was given an amount of a drug used to drug someone, it was likely an amount that would have messed him up pretty good. Why would someone have a "date-rape drug" that carries such a low amount of weight that it would likely have zero side effects? You think someone buys ecstasy to drug someone but does it only in small doses that their victim wont feel it?
 
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BUCKYLE said:
:lol: X isn't date rape drug. They spiked the punch. Spence took a drink. Enough to piss dirty, not enough to have him twirling glow sticks and sucking a binky.
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And Kyle should know, he date rape drugs himself pretty regularly I imagine... with that much beard, there's no point in fighting it.
 
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