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DC Jim Knowles (Official Thread)

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There’s plenty of blame to go around, I just don’t see any benefit at pointing at just one unit as the sole cause of the loss. The offense turned the ball over twice, had some dropped passes, and missed on several open receivers, plus some junk play from the OL. The defense couldn’t get off the field, gave up 3 4th down conversions, and got zero stops in the 2nd half. Special teams had a missed field goal, several crap punts, and did nothing returning the ball. All 3 units performed well enough to win in a vacuum, but against a good opponent who made very few mistakes, the combination of their respective failings led to a close loss. Putting all of those failings in perspective, it’s bordering on miraculous they even had a chance to win at the end of the game.
 
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buckeyebri said:
Again blame McCord all you want if that makes your day better.
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I mean, he proved he wasn't good enough. We all saw it all season long and The Game was simply confirmation.

Even in a year where all it took was an average QB, he still wasn't good enough.

He's comfortably the worst Buckeye starting QB in the last 20 years not named Bauserman.

I hope he never starts another game for OSU.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
There’s plenty of blame to go around, I just don’t see any benefit at pointing at just one unit as the sole cause of the loss. The offense turned the ball over twice, had some dropped passes, and missed on several open receivers, plus some junk play from the OL. The defense couldn’t get off the field, gave up 3 4th down conversions, and got zero stops in the 2nd half. Special teams had a missed field goal, several crap punts, and did nothing returning the ball. All 3 units performed well enough to win in a vacuum, but against a good opponent who made very few mistakes, the combination of their respective failings led to a close loss. Putting all of those failings in perspective, it’s bordering on miraculous they even had a chance to win at the end of the game.
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Well-stated.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
There’s plenty of blame to go around, I just don’t see any benefit at pointing at just one unit as the sole cause of the loss. The offense turned the ball over twice, had some dropped passes, and missed on several open receivers, plus some junk play from the OL. The defense couldn’t get off the field, gave up 3 4th down conversions, and got zero stops in the 2nd half. Special teams had a missed field goal, several crap punts, and did nothing returning the ball. All 3 units performed well enough to win in a vacuum, but against a good opponent who made very few mistakes, the combination of their respective failings led to a close loss. Putting all of those failings in perspective, it’s bordering on miraculous they even had a chance to win at the end of the game.
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The definition of not playing a clean game.

I said it a million times prior to the game that we would lose because we make mistakes. 1,000 % that’s what happened.

Both sides of the ball played well enough to win had the other side played lights out but every facet made big mistakes.

Just can’t do that and that’s been our MO now for 3 years. That’s the thing we need to somehow develop.

We are the best team on the field when we play other than if we play UGA/Alabama. Only thing we should have to do to win is literally just not make mistakes.
 
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BUCK3YE5 said:
I mean, he proved he wasn't good enough. We all saw it all season long and The Game was simply confirmation.

Even in a year where all it took was an average QB, he still wasn't good enough.

He's comfortably the worst Buckeye starting QB in the last 20 years not named Bauserman.

I hope he never starts another game for OSU.
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The fuck does this have to do with Jim Knowles?
 
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cincibuck said:
Wisconsin couldn’t run once their #1 back went down. ND’s big back gave the Bucks problems throughout the game. Against all games against top twenty teams, the linebackers, Sawyer and timaloualau seemed to to be pretty ordinary.
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Its absolutely criminal how ordinary and sometimes downright bad the DEs looked right along with the LBs. It seemed like this year Tommy had lost his instincts from last year and Chambers was always a step too slow. There would be 1-2 quarters(minimum)a game where I didn't even know that Sawyer or JT were playing...
If it wasn't for the DTs and the DBs(especially when Ransom was healthy) this defense would've had some big time issues.
 
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Fungo Squiggly said:
There’s plenty of blame to go around, I just don’t see any benefit at pointing at just one unit as the sole cause of the loss. The offense turned the ball over twice, had some dropped passes, and missed on several open receivers, plus some junk play from the OL. The defense couldn’t get off the field, gave up 3 4th down conversions, and got zero stops in the 2nd half. Special teams had a missed field goal, several crap punts, and did nothing returning the ball. All 3 units performed well enough to win in a vacuum, but against a good opponent who made very few mistakes, the combination of their respective failings led to a close loss. Putting all of those failings in perspective, it’s bordering on miraculous they even had a chance to win at the end of the game.
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Really good post, most of mine really is stream of consciousness and not directed at your post at all. This loss is easily delved out to each unit, each coach, and each player in about equal proportions. I will start out by reiterating that the defense is much improved under Knowles, the 11 games before Saturday were not an accident. We need to keep him as our DC for at least one more year.

But the second half was just inexcusable to me...the offense finally does their part with a commanding drive to tie it and the defense not only rolls over in the 2nd half, they take forever in doing so and our offense had very limited chances because of it. McCord gave ttun 7 points in the 2nd quarter without a doubt and the defense made them earn it at that. So the first half is a winning grade imo. But the second half the defense really screwed the pooch and the most egregious part was time of possession, not points. You can give up only 10-20 points and fail defensively if you can't get off the field. Better to give up 30 than die by a thousand cuts....to that point, that is exactly what we gave up for points anyways.

Knowles seems to be a good coach and we should be glad to have him back. But he and Day better figure out how to beat *ichigan or this is the last year I will be saying that.
 
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pnuts34 said:
Its absolutely criminal how ordinary and sometimes downright bad the DEs looked right along with the LBs. It seemed like this year Tommy had lost his instincts from last year and Chambers was always a step too slow. There would be 1-2 quarters(minimum)a game where I didn't even know that Sawyer or JT were playing...
If it wasn't for the DTs and the DBs(especially when Ransom was healthy) this defense would've had some big time issues.
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I think that’s because 33 and 44 are kind of the same player. They’re both roughly the same size and have pretty similar skill sets.

We really need to have at least 1 end who can really get after it in the pass rush. Yes that might mean they aren’t as good as stopping the run but sometimes that’s the sacrifice you need to trade. Sometimes it’s ok if a player isn’t complete and they have a skill set that you can utilize that’s different.

I think we are maybe a bit too strict with “well they aren’t ready yet”.
 
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Captain Buckeye said:
I think that’s because 33 and 44 are kind of the same player. They’re both roughly the same size and have pretty similar skill sets.

We really need to have at least 1 end who can really get after it in the pass rush. Yes that might mean they aren’t as good as stopping the run but sometimes that’s the sacrifice you need to trade. Sometimes it’s ok if a player isn’t complete and they have a skill set that you can utilize that’s different.

I think we are maybe a bit too strict with “well they aren’t ready yet”.
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And OSU has 3 players with that exact skill set...
 
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sg86 said:
The defense has taken two consecutive leaps from where it was in 2021. At some point people need to come to grips with the fact that the defensive side was so massively screwed up with recruiting and development failures that you can’t just untangle the knot immediately.
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Could very well be true of the defense but I think people need to do the same level of coming to grips with the cold hard fact that we have to keep moving the goal posts like this for every element of this program except WR recruiting and development.

If you keep having to make excuses for failure, you are just going to keep getting failure.
 
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BuckBackHome said:
We have gone from #44 defense in 2020 to #38 in 21 to #14 last year to #3 this year. I am more than happy if Coach Knowles comes back next year!
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with Parker Flemming gone, and LJSr retires and both are replaced by competent people who will teach Knowles D the way he wants...
 
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