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DB Cameron Martinez (transfer to Boston College)

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ScriptOhio said:
There's nothing wrong with a degree from either school. However, (realistically) when you want to enlist the services of someone in a profession that requires a degree do you first screen them by where their degree is from? Do you actually know or even care where your doctor or dentist graduated from? In addition, I'll wager the internships and/or "job fairs" at Northwestern aren't any better than the ones available at Ohio State in getting your "foot in the door" for employment after you graduate. Depending on the degree and/or field you are in, there are some employers that might prefer a degree from one school over another; but other factors like the interview, references, grades, personality, and/or other intangibles could over ride where your degree is from too. With that being said, I do know there are companies in Ohio that have a "track record" of hiring football players from Ohio State (with a degree).
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Right. Like those with law degrees from Harvard really don't have a step up on those with law degrees from other schools. Keep thinkin' that, Script.

I'm not going to argue with a bunch of homers--alumni or not--who think that a player with a degree from tOSU has it better than a player with a degree by Northwestern simply because of tOSU's RLW, internships, job fairs, and "name recognition". There's a reason why NW is in the top 10 of all universities in the country (and higher than every single public university) and tOSU isn't even in the top 50.
 
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Well, former players - with our without degrees, frankly - don't stay unemployed in Columbus... that much is absolutely true. But, taking nothing away from an Ohio State degree, it's hard to argue that Northwestern isn't the more decorated academic institution. I figure Martinez has NFL aspirations. But, with that said, holding a degree from Northwestern, should he chose them over Ohio State, sure as heck isn't going to hurt his non-football professional aspirations, whatever they may be, and certainly if he wants to major in Journalism.

Again, that's not to say that holding a degree from THE is gonna hold him back any. But, mili is right, college rankings have meaning.
 
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A lot more guys DON'T get hired to play NFL football than those that do. I don't know if Martinez will get to the League. I sure think he has the talent and the potential... but.. hey.. it's not hard to find examples of kids who looked like absolute sure things out of HS who are now working in something that is completely not football.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Again, that's not to say that holding a degree from THE is gonna hold him back any. But, mili is right, college rankings have meaning.
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Yeah, and one meaning is that it means you are going to pay more to go there....:nod:

1) The annual list price to attend Northwestern University on a full time basis for 2017/2018 is $72,980 for all students regardless of their residency. This fee is comprised of $52,239 for tuition, $16,047 room and board, $1,660 for books and supplies and $439 for other fees.

2) That's good news because a stint at Harvard doesn't always come cheap. For the 2018-2019 academic year, the standard tuition is $46,340. Room and board and other fees bring the total price tag to a hefty $67,580.

and yeah I know, those are private schools and THE Ohio State University gets some "state money", etc.
 
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Well, Martinez isn't gonna be paying more for his education, so I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at. It shouldn't come as a surprise that prestigious private schools are expensive. Heck, even "less prestigious" private schools have bigger price tags... as an example, Capital Law School is more expensive than Ohio State's law school, and OSU's Law degree is the more highly regarded of the two.
 
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I think you have to de-average upside case vs downside case when comparing the degrees here. Coming from a guy with a degree from both institutions (though not an athlete).

Being a former OSU player means the "floor" or absolute worst case scenario of your career is pretty high - for example I think it'd be really hard to find yourself not gainfully employed with OSU degree + OSU football on resume + OSU support while you are in school. That gives you the safety to go after your football career like hell - you'll still do okay even if you don't make the league.

But if we are talking career upside or ceiling - NU degree + NU sports has the edge and its not close. I come across these profiles a lot in Chicago an NY; lawyers, private equity, bankers, etc. Especially if you can pair the NU undergrad with another premier grad school.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Yeah, football players are dummies and never major in tough degrees...
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They rarely major in STEM because of the schedule conflicts, nothing to do with the former.
Ironically, this was a key point in the Judge' decision on whether to allow Northwestern to unionize some years ago.
Several players provided proof that the University precluded them - as a condition of their scholarship - from majoring in Engineering.
For the Judge, this was proof that they were being treated as employees, not beneficiaries.
Northwestern was on record with this, but it's very common across the D1A landscape.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
I'm not talking about "national name recognition and team support", I'm talking about having a world-class degree that will likely get your resume looked at a lot more being a former member of a football team.
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It's a Bachelors....not an MS or PhD.
Bachelors are the new Associates.
Doesnt matter that much where you got it from.
What you got, GPA, and GRE is more important than where. He'd be cut off from the good degrees everywhere in P5 as a scholarship football player.
 
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Bill Kurelic(I believe) brought up an interesting take, that Martinez might not be needed in this class as he has no real position. He said that he's an undersized S, not fluid enough to play CB, but could be a good WR, but we are full at that position. Interesting take, as Idk if I believe that Martinez couldn't be a very good S in this defense. He might not be able to play 1 high, but in a more traditional 2 deep
 
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