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Better go draft Harrell then.lvbuckeye;1369497; said:
New England has the #6 rushing offense in the NFL (12th in passing)
You make a better point with New Orleans (28th) which is completely one dimensional (1st in passing)
and of course, both clubs missed the playoffs....
Yes. It's essentially a trick play in the NFL.
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do you expect it to work that well next year? Yes? Not a gimmick. No? Gimmick.[/bkb]:p
I sure don't.
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lvbuckeye
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1369504; said:
yeah, and Tom Brady didn't pass for 50 TDs last year or anything.
as if losing Deuce and Reggie to injury wouldn't have an impact on the run-pass ratio...
yeah, and losing key players to injury didn't have anything to do with that...
i suggest you reread what you wrote: Pretty much works like this - Does it work in the NFL? Yes? Not a gimmick. No? Gimmick.
the wildcat works in the NFL. one team used it last year. several teams used it this year, obviously because it worked for that one team last year.. therefore by your own definition, the wildcat is not a gimmick. see what i did there?
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Yes, LV, I see what you did there... find the exception to the rule, argue it as if it has special force.... it's what you do.lvbuckeye;1369522; said:
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How many teams are running it effectively?
Seems more likely that Ronnie Brown & Ricky Williams work effectively. Not many teams with those two on roster.
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Rut roh.... NFL.com reveals that New England had a running game in 2007 as well (13th)... True enough, they were #1 in passing though. Some might say they were going for... wait for it..
wait...
wait...
Balance.
PS - there's more... in terms of Attempts, NE was 9th in the NFL in rushing attempts... 5th in passing attempts.... again I say....
Balance.
wait...
wait...
Balance.
PS - there's more... in terms of Attempts, NE was 9th in the NFL in rushing attempts... 5th in passing attempts.... again I say....
Balance.
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lvbuckeye;1369535; said:
Uh huh.... It was my mistake for not making certain that my back and forth with sportsbuck28 was worded completely and totally air tight. It's the internet after all, and unlike common conversations, we should be careful not to use words in a manner which people might understand as "ordinary" conversation....
Incidentally..... You've yet to establish that the TTU style O works in the NFL... and I haven't even given the obvious caveat "consistently" yet.
Jwins seems to understand the caveat even unspoken....to his credit, though, he seems familiar with casual conversation.
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so is it going to work well next year or not, lv? And why isn't everyone running it if it works so well?
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jwinslow;1369548; said:
Oh, but you see, Jwins... I didn't suggest that everyone had to run it.... just any team, at any time... that's all it takes to disprove my vast overstatement.
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lvbuckeye
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it'll sound like a copout, but it depends who's running it and who's defending it. the 'Fins were the only team to run it in '07. but several other teams ran it in '08. doesn't sound like a gimmick to me; it sounds like a trend.
i saw a lot of stuff in the NFL this year that could be classified as a gimmick, but damn near everything we take for granted as "traditional" was a gimmick in its inception. anything different is a gimmick until everyone else starts doing it too.
the Ravens were running an unbalanced line this year with and extra OT lined up at TE and pulling the opposite guard. is that a gimmick? well, Tressel used that formation with considerable success in The Game three years ago.
Carolina was running flex bone look with two fullbacks. is that a gimmick? i don't think so. the flexbone has been around for more years than i've been alive.
i saw a lot of stuff in the NFL this year that could be classified as a gimmick, but damn near everything we take for granted as "traditional" was a gimmick in its inception. anything different is a gimmick until everyone else starts doing it too.
the Ravens were running an unbalanced line this year with and extra OT lined up at TE and pulling the opposite guard. is that a gimmick? well, Tressel used that formation with considerable success in The Game three years ago.
Carolina was running flex bone look with two fullbacks. is that a gimmick? i don't think so. the flexbone has been around for more years than i've been alive.
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I don't disagree that everything was a gimmick at its inception....
there's a difference between schemes and plays and formations though. You don't see a triple option in the NFL.... it's a gimmick.
That word "gimmick" doesn't mean it can't be successful, or that it is without value, or even that a "traditional" team should wholly avoid it at all costs. I'm speaking more generally....
there's a difference between schemes and plays and formations though. You don't see a triple option in the NFL.... it's a gimmick.
That word "gimmick" doesn't mean it can't be successful, or that it is without value, or even that a "traditional" team should wholly avoid it at all costs. I'm speaking more generally....
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