Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

[AKAK]

I've been trying to open a home for runaway, unvaxxed, teenage girls during this pandemic to do my part for the world but as of yet, Mrs. Jax has not given it her blessing.

I guess she really has issues with unvaccinated people.

I continue to fight the good fight though.

What a bitch.

 

[Buckerooni]

doesn’t she have to wait a few months after having Covid for the vax to be effective?

I've been trying to get clear on this. If you have had monoclonal antibody treatment (and I don't expect she'll need it) you're supposed to wait 90 days. If you haven't, the recommendation seems to vary depending on how severe your symptoms were. No symptoms, you can get vaccinated right after quarantine.

So - we'll have to see how this goes. I just want her to get vaccinated as soon as she can.

 

[Buckerooni]

I've been trying to open a home for runaway, unvaxxed, teenage girls during this pandemic to do my part for the world but as of yet, Mrs. Jax has not given it her blessing.

I guess she really has issues with unvaccinated people.

I continue to fight the good fight though.

Let me know if you get the nod. I might have one for you.

 

[heisman]

I've been trying to open a home for runaway, unvaxxed, teenage girls during this pandemic to do my part for the world but as of yet, Mrs. Jax has not given it her blessing.

I guess she really has issues with unvaccinated people.

I continue to fight the good fight though.

Humanitarian.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Humanitarian.

I do what I can

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

The time in the hospital I never walked 25 feet. Once with a physical therapist on the last day 10 ft. I needed help getting in the house and recliner. Stayed in my den 10 ft from toilet. Needed help for a week to get there. It was a month before I started walking up steps to bed. Intestinal issues ..on and on. I didn’t feel 90 percent till April 1. I’m good now but lost hair and it grew back in wavy when my hair was straight..CoVid not the flu.

That's some scary shit , I'm glad to hear you've recovered - hope you don't have to deal with any of the 'long covid' symptoms. Best of luck to you moving forward.

So - we'll have to see how this goes. I just want her to get vaccinated as soon as she can.

You're a good dude for taking her in. I remain baffled at the anti-vax crowd.

As far as my vax experience thus far, I got both my moderna shots as soon as I could last year and was boosted (also moderna) as soon as I could, late last year. The wife came up with a regimen of intense hydrating with gatorade and bone broth along with frequent pushups after each shot. I suffered no ill effects from any of my shots aside from a sore arm. Wife and 13 y.o. daughter had all pfizer and similarly followed the regimen and also had no ill effects. Daughter is signed up for her booster next week.

In the past 3 months, we've taken one vacation to Mexico with friends and one trip to Boston for Christmas to see family (been 2 years since we've seen everyone), taking all appropriate precautions and have managed to stay healthy. I can't overstate the peace of mind I've had since we've all been vaxxed. Again, I just don't get the anti-vaxxers.

 

[Honor&Glory]

That's some scary shit , I'm glad to hear you've recovered - hope you don't have to deal with any of the 'long covid' symptoms. Best of luck to you moving forward.



You're a good dude for taking her in. I remain baffled at the anti-vax crowd.

As far as my vax experience thus far, I got both my moderna shots as soon as I could last year and was boosted (also moderna) as soon as I could, late last year. The wife came up with a regimen of intense hydrating with gatorade and bone broth along with frequent pushups after each shot. I suffered no ill effects from any of my shots aside from a sore arm. Wife and 13 y.o. daughter had all pfizer and similarly followed the regimen and also had no ill effects. Daughter is signed up for her booster next week.

In the past 3 months, we've taken one vacation to Mexico with friends and one trip to Boston for Christmas to see family (been 2 years since we've seen everyone), taking all appropriate precautions and have managed to stay healthy. I can't overstate the peace of mind I've had since we've all been vaxxed. Again, I just don't get the anti-vaxxers.

my family is vaxed and boosted. But I won't go so far as to say the anti-vax crowd baffles me. those who won't take the shots because of political ideology can piss off. but I do know some who won't out of fear for various reasons that, to be fair, the FDA can't answer. Those people do keep distant and do mask and do what they can. but I won't judge them or hold anything against them for not getting the shot. I just won't. sorry if that offends anyone but the choice for others may not be as easy as it was for my fat diabetic ass. lol

 

[jwinslow]

Regarding omicron as herd immunity

Https://fortune.com/2022/01/05/experts-omicron-herd-immunity-not-long-terrible-cost/amp/

“There’s been a lot of talk about this being it, the big wave that’s gonna finally get most people infected. It is possible that with this Omicron wave, we will reach a level of herd immunity,” says Dr. Luis Ostrosky, chief of infectious diseases with McGovern Medical School at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston.

Israel’s top health adviser, Nachman Ash, agrees, recently saying he believes his country could reach herd immunity based on the surging levels of Omicron infections. “The [infection] numbers will have to be very high in order to reach herd immunity,” Ash, director general of the Health Ministry, said Sunday. “This is possible.”

Approximately 94% of people must be immune in order to successfully halt transmission, according to the Mayo Clinic.

But the problem with herd immunity, and particularly with the COVID-19 virus, is that it is likely time sensitive, Ostrosky says. “We always start seeing declining antibodies a few months out,” he says. Not only is the immunity conferred time-limited, it may also not protect against other mutations of the coronavirus. “An infection with this particular variant doesn’t guarantee protection against future variants,” Ostrosky says.

proposition to be saying: ‘Let’s go for it. Let’s get herd immunity. Everybody gets infected and we’ll be done,’” Ostrosky says.

There is also a very real downside to natural herd immunity, which is that a lot of people are going to get infected and, just by sheer numbers, could end up in the hospital and dying, Ostrosky says. “That’s why we’ve never sort of relied on herd immunity as a strategy to get out of the pandemic. There’s a cost to it,” he says.

“People think, ‘Oh, Omicron, it’s no big deal.’ It is a big deal. If you’re not vaccinated, Omicron is a big deal for you,” Poland says.

“If you got your flu vaccine this fall, and I hope you did, then you got vaccinated against a variant of influenza that first showed up in 1918. So, a hundred-plus years later, we’re still vaccinating against that,” Poland adds. “One hundred years from now, our great, great, whatever that will be, great grandchildren will be getting immunized against coronavirus.”

“I see Omicron as our kind of final warning shot,” Ostrosky says. If the U.S. doesn’t do something “drastic and permanent,” Ostrosky believes COVID will mutate and produce a variant of high consequence, which means one that is totally resistant to the vaccines, therapeutics, and even detection through currently available testing.

He believes the U.S. needs to achieve a minimum threshold of having 60% to 70% of the population vaccinated across all locations, socioeconomic backgrounds, ethnicities, genders, ages, and races.
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“Sometimes we see vaccine data saying 90% of the adults are vaccinated, but that doesn’t work when only 20% of the kids are. We need kind of a uniform vaccination rate,” he says.

 

[Jaxbuck]

“I see Omicron as our kind of final warning shot,” Ostrosky says. If the U.S. doesn’t do something “drastic and permanent,” Ostrosky believes COVID will mutate and produce a variant of high consequence, which means one that is totally resistant to the vaccines, therapeutics, and even detection through currently available testing.

What the hell does that even mean?

'Do something now that's really drastic and irreversible or, I don't know when and I don't know how but, something really, really terrible is going to happen. Trust me I'm a scientist'

Does this type of messaging really help anything?

 

[muffler dragon]

From my POV, it's darts at a dart board. Just trying to hit all sorts of talking points without clear conclusions.

 

[AKAK]

Regarding omicron as herd immunity

Https://fortune.com/2022/01/05/experts-omicron-herd-immunity-not-long-terrible-cost/amp/

Well, Dr Ostrosky is a sensationalist idiot...

“I see Omicron as our kind of final warning shot,” Ostrosky says. If the U.S. doesn’t do something “drastic and permanent,” Ostrosky believes COVID will mutate and produce a variant of high consequence, which means one that is totally resistant to the vaccines, therapeutics, and even detection through currently available testing.

He believes the U.S. needs to achieve a minimum threshold of having 60% to 70% of the population vaccinated across all locations, socioeconomic backgrounds, ethnicities, genders, ages, and races.
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“Sometimes we see vaccine data saying 90% of the adults are vaccinated, but that doesn’t work when only 20% of the kids are. We need kind of a uniform vaccination rate,” he says.

Yeah, so about that.

This ignores one thing, and you can blame "The US" in part for this I guess, but you need to replace "U.S." with "World" -- Omicron and Delta didn't originate in this country. And if you're going to vaccinate the World, the US probably needs to take some action. So, he can get back to me with his policy demands for decisive action when that's part of the equation. It won't make a lick of difference if every last man woman and child is vaccinated in this country if his super virus pops up in Peru or wherever. (Not knocking on Peru for all you Peru fans out there)

Covid Zero isn't on the table. Its endemic, get vaccinated and get on with it. But he knows this. He's just an asshole engaging in a noble lie.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

@Jaxbuck Heard Epstein's operation is available. Mrs Jax would like the private island

 

[muffler dragon]

Its endemic, get vaccinated and get on with it.

*emphasis mine

 

[AKAK]

*emphasis mine

You should have emphasized "lick of difference"

 

[jwinslow]

Well, Dr Ostrosky is a sensationalist idiot...





Yeah, so about that.

This ignores one thing, and you can blame "The US" in part for this I guess, but you need to replace "U.S." with "World" -- Omicron and Delta didn't originate in this country. And if you're going to vaccinate the World, the US probably needs to take some action. So, he can get back to me with his policy demands for decisive action when that's part of the equation. It won't make a lick of difference if every last man woman and child is vaccinated in this country if his super virus pops up in Peru or wherever. (Not knocking on Peru for all you Peru fans out there)

Covid Zero isn't on the table. Its endemic, get vaccinated and get on with it. But he knows this. He's just an asshole engaging in a noble lie.

Covid minor is often talked about as coming or possible if we'd let it try. It's been that way for most of two years.

I think his prediction that a catastrophe is coming is a big assumption meant to sensationalize. I think it's pretty clear that waiting around to see what happens (without vaccinating) is absolutely asking for a disaster, but his hypothetical may not come.

frankly the catastrophe is already here. Foremost in the mental health area and just overall stability of all work forces, not just health care. And the inconsistent messaging is a huge part of that, because while there is tribalism, there's also a much larger contingent of people trying that can't possibly get this figured out.

Most of that article was agreeing with you loudly. Get vaccinated, accept that this can't be stopped, and let's head towards the endemic. But that requires some levity and grace from both extremes.

And it requires leadership to demonstrate humility, grace and wisdom, which includes admitting where our blind spots are. You can't pretend it's nothing, you can't shame people into compliance, you can't pretend you have all of the answers (even if you do, they're suddenly wrong in 1-3 months).