DubCoffman62
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My company started off the pandemic with the "abundance of caution" approach but now we have people openly coughing up lungs.
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Buckeneye
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I'm under no illusions, at least not anymore, of the employee - employer relationship. I currently work for a medium-sized company, around 275 people or so. I was told from day one how this is a family and we do our best to treat our employees as such. In my time here I've found that to be all but the opposite.
Before the pandemic we've had issues with workforce management and copious amounts of overtime. To the point that, of the last 7 years, I've been underwater by a LONG way in terms of overtime to vacation time. With the exception of one year only, I've worked on average twice as many overtime days as I had vacation days. And there's about a 100 years worth of labor-department studies showing how extended assignment of overtime burns out and uses up your work force. Since April of 2020, we've had 16 people leave this company for greener pastures. Of that 16, only one was employed there less than 5 years. The rest between 10-20 years and in various roles from management to industrial maintenance. That should be a huge red-flag to the President and COO of our company, but they're willfully ignorant and business as usual. Despite being slammed with an age and health discrimination lawsuit that they got their asses handed to them over.
Beyond the issues of work-force management there have been accusations of financial corruption, misuse of union powers and out-right nepotism hires that forced good people, who were trying too move up in their work place, to ultimately seek professional advancement elsewhere. Like I said, I'm under no illusions anymore. I do my best to help my guys at work since the nature of my job is to facilitate for the production staff and help keep things running smooth. I'm the guy who brings donuts in for everybody when we're in on a Saturday working OT. A trivial thing, but something to help indicate my mentality of bearing the extra workload and trying to make it positive. But I can't keep doing that anymore, there's nothing positive about this aside from a bigger paycheck. Even then I ask myself, at what expense? I missed my nephews birthday because we needed dire help at work. His 13th birthday, a pretty big milestone too. I've set aside getting my wisdom teeth removed because I'm seemingly at work everyday and I didn't want to miss the 1-2 days (tops) or so from recovering from the anesthesia and pain meds. All to help contribute to the cause, because I value work ethic. I realize now how silly and misguided that is. I have, and currently am, sacrificing my health for an enterprise that wouldn't be so good as to do the same for me.
Guidelines include a negative tests now as well I think.
And I promise you, if I walk into the door at work tomorrow, nobody will ask me to test negative before coming back and tell me that the guidelines have changed. Because these new CDC guidelines might see me still test positive and therefore I would be told to go home and rest until I'm not longer contagious. That is against the interests of my current employer telling me to be there.
Fatigue, light headed, a bit of chest compression and congestion are the issues. The stamina is as you mentioned, I've been off my feet and in bed for almost a week. I've hardly eaten because I have no appetite still. While I'm not as actively sick as I was the first 3-4 days, I'm by no means recovered.
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21 months ago my IT department had 15 employees. Today there are 5, and 3 of them are full-time remote programmers or DBAs, 2 of which I have never met.
There are 11 offices, 10 cubicles, a conference room, and a kitchenette on my floor. Two of the offices are occupied. We're using the cubicles to store computers, printers, paper, and toner. I've been here going on 19 years. The other guy is a level 1 support tech who has been here 6 months.
Oh look, there goes another tumbleweed down the aisles...
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muffler dragon
Bien. Bien chiludo.
I have.
Minimal reactions throughout all three.
First shot, arm discomfort.
Second shot, left armpit lymph node ached.
Booster, nothing but arm discomfort.
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Had both vax shots (Moderna) in the spring last year. First shot no issue, second shot laid me out for maybe 8-12 hours, onset was about four hours after I got home. Nothing bad, just flu-like blahs where I felt lethargic for a half-day and essentially laid on the couch watching TV while drifting in-and-out of naps. Haven't had my booster yet because I knew if I had that experience again I wanted to burn the vacation time in 2022. Am booking that appointment for next week. Wife and kids also all vaxxed, not boosted.
I'm not trying to piss anyone off either, I guess my thing has always been I don't see how this stuff ever became controversial (I'm kidding, I know how it became controversial. Fuck you, Zuckerberg). Smallpox vax has been around for 200 years, and been mandated for a child to attend school for 150 years. My family, given my wife is a public school teacher, has always been punctual about getting annual flu shots. Anyone in the military probably got shots for eight different fucking things before being deployed. Those anthrax shots aren't a walk in the park, either. I really just don't understand the apprehension at all; as a society we're coming unglued.
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muffler dragon
Bien. Bien chiludo.
Living outside OKC now and the reasons for not getting vaccinations has been more nuanced and insightful than what I was hearing in Piedmont Triad, NC.
In order to keep this short, the time duration and testing along with these being predominantly mRNA vaccines has left many of my younger coworkers willing to roll the dice with the virus.
Granted, west of OKC, where my company is located, is a lot more rural and spread out. The town we're based in is 12-15k population.
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This. Being a retired 26-year military veteran, I've had shots for just about everything. When I retired in 2001 and went civilian I ceased getting shots but haven't gotten sick once, so I've be on both far sides of vaccinations. Anyone who wants to keep getting COVID shots, have at it...you're not going to hear bad things from me. But I've had two shots (at the behest of my daughters) and that's it, no more. I'll be 65 in three days, so if it's time for me to go then have at it.
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I'm fully vaxxed w all three.. Had zero after effects from any of the shots.. but I am not a supporter of vax mandates.. don't have a dog in the fight.. Daily I deal with thousands of financial advisors nationwide and this issue is causing immense angst.. especially for those that really take care of themselves and workout junkies... ironically vastly white democrats contrary to what I read...
My town has a 19k population. 90%+ of adults in town are 'vaxxed'.. Town is robustly rolling it out to the kids but again, some parents are really stressed by this... I feel for them... Private education out here ranges from $25K - $45K a year (on top of our obscene real estate taxes) so keeping them or pulling them is a costly decision
Our township issues bi-weekly email updates. Our covid positives have geometrically exploded. In the highest days when Covid hit, we'd have 60 a week... Now we're at 130 every 3 days... Only 1 death in many many months. The emails don't give details like where it's coming from, variant or whether asymptomatic. We are told that our contact tracing setup is one of the premier ones in Jersey which could account for the numbers.
Doctor friends tell me there is no one in the hospital or office breakout rooms that wear masks but they wear them in any visible area w patient contact. one told me "take a hit from a cigar.. put on your mask.. exhale.. that tells you how effective masks are".. Internet readings say there have been a ton of studies on mask effectiveness and all say they're basically worthless... I'm pretty diligent with a mask since the wife is phobic and in consideration of her.
I still think "society is unglued" because there's no one source they trust... even if this is just a ME issue...
My town has a 19k population. 90%+ of adults in town are 'vaxxed'.. Town is robustly rolling it out to the kids but again, some parents are really stressed by this... I feel for them... Private education out here ranges from $25K - $45K a year (on top of our obscene real estate taxes) so keeping them or pulling them is a costly decision
Our township issues bi-weekly email updates. Our covid positives have geometrically exploded. In the highest days when Covid hit, we'd have 60 a week... Now we're at 130 every 3 days... Only 1 death in many many months. The emails don't give details like where it's coming from, variant or whether asymptomatic. We are told that our contact tracing setup is one of the premier ones in Jersey which could account for the numbers.
Doctor friends tell me there is no one in the hospital or office breakout rooms that wear masks but they wear them in any visible area w patient contact. one told me "take a hit from a cigar.. put on your mask.. exhale.. that tells you how effective masks are".. Internet readings say there have been a ton of studies on mask effectiveness and all say they're basically worthless... I'm pretty diligent with a mask since the wife is phobic and in consideration of her.
I still think "society is unglued" because there's no one source they trust... even if this is just a ME issue...
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March 17 Moderna
April 14 Moderna
December 3 Moderna
Never had an adverse reaction to any of the three shots, other than minor arm soreness.
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You contradicted yourself a bit here. What percentage of the population gets a flu shot? 25%?
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I had Covid Dec 2020 and was extra tired for 5 days or so. My wife couldn't even walk up the stairs without taking a break to catch her breath. I do think getting Covid naturally before the vaccine changes the side effects. I got Moderna in the spring and a booster last month. I did have chills a day after the first shot, but they were gone by the next morning so maybe 6 hours. No side effects from the other 2 shots except for a sore arm. My wife had some side effects from both of her Pfizer shots and her Moderna booster last week, but they were gone after a day.
My kids might have had Covid when we did in 2020, but only my wife got tested since we were all quarantined and they didn't have many or any symptoms. They didn't have any symptoms from the vaccines. Not sure if we all made it through the current spike without getting it or just had no symptoms. I figure my wife would have had symptoms if she got it since it hit her so hard the first time.
My kids might have had Covid when we did in 2020, but only my wife got tested since we were all quarantined and they didn't have many or any symptoms. They didn't have any symptoms from the vaccines. Not sure if we all made it through the current spike without getting it or just had no symptoms. I figure my wife would have had symptoms if she got it since it hit her so hard the first time.
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