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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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My mom and had a friend go to the ER in Quahog yesterday with puss-oozing staple sites from and abdominal surgery, also pus coming from colostomy site and she had to sit in the ER for 7 and a half hours to get a bed and she was scheduled for emergency surgery today.

All beds were full.
 
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Reading these posts clearly identify the core issue.. trust or rather distrust
There is no source that we universally trust... and even if there were a source we should trust we don't because we now mistrust them all.

The more we go along, the more distrust there is...
Trust is very often something you never regain once lost
The medical and research and pharmas are all in that category. Political groups (and I include WHO and CDC) have always been in that category... and MSM will never leave the mistrust category ever again

We're lusting for someone.. some group... to trust
and that's why we are in this position
 
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My mom and had a friend go to the ER in Quahog yesterday with puss-oozing staple sites from and abdominal surgery, also pus coming from colostomy site and she had to sit in the ER for 7 and a half hours to get a bed and she was scheduled for emergency surgery today.

All beds were full.

Yeah, but that’s normal/common Thump. Had 3 long stays in hospitals in my life, all prior to Covid. Never got a bed after being admitted from ER in under 8 hours, never. One of those times, I got hit by a car on my bike and broke about every bone in my body. Not a fun wait @ 6’7” on a 6’ gurney. :getout:
 
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Yeah, but that’s normal/common Thump. Had 3 long stays in hospitals in my life, all prior to Covid. Never got a bed after being admitted from ER in under 8 hours, never. One of those times, I got hit by a car on my bike and broke about every bone in my body. Not a fun wait @ 6’7” on a 6’ gurney. :getout:
Not normal in Quahog.

All 25 beds were taken.
 
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Yeah, but that’s normal/common Thump. Had 3 long stays in hospitals in my life, all prior to Covid. Never got a bed after being admitted from ER in under 8 hours, never. One of those times, I got hit by a car on my bike and broke about every bone in my body. Not a fun wait @ 6’7” on a 6’ gurney. :getout:
Have you spoken with people who work in ERs? (It's not normal at all)

I've been around many things 3+ times.
Dallas Texas.
Modern art.
Capri pants.

Despite that, I am the last person that you should ask to explain what's going on there.
 
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Have you spoken with people who work in ERs? (It's not normal at all)

I've been around many things 3+ times.
Dallas Texas.
Modern art.
Capri pants.

I am the last person you should ask to explain what's going on there.
My sister is a doctor, my sister in law is an ER nurse, my best friend and college roommate is a director of Respiratory Therapy @ OSU hospital, and most importantly, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
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Reading these posts clearly identify the core issue.. trust or rather distrust
There is no source that we universally trust... and even if there were a source we should trust we don't because we now mistrust them all.

The more we go along, the more distrust there is...
Trust is very often something you never regain once lost
The medical and research and pharmas are all in that category. Political groups (and I include WHO and CDC) have always been in that category... and MSM will never leave the mistrust category ever again

We're lusting for someone.. some group... to trust
and that's why we are in this position
Which is why the sowers of distrust are so profitable, in principle and principal.

A mob's flame never permits a gentle ending, only more kindling.

Nothing sells more Facebook ads or promoted tweets than angering/tantalizing us long enough to forget who the primary disruptor is.
 
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My sister is a doctor, my sister in law is an ER nurse, my best friend and college roommate is a director of Respiratory Therapy @ OSU hospital, and most importantly, I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
And they're telling you that this saturation is normal and how it usually is?

Or that it's happened before?

Those are two very different things.
 
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90% of ICU patients around me are unvaccinated. I'm not so good with numbers, but I think there may be a connection.
https://www.mlive.com/public-intere...ated-spectrum-health-says.html?outputType=amp
As of Friday, Spectrum had 300-plus inpatients with COVID in their Grand Rapids and satellite hospitals in Big Rapids, Ludington, Hastings, Reed City, Fremont, Greenville and Zeeland.

Among the data points:
  • 85% of Spectrum’s COVID inpatients are unvaccinated.
  • 94% of COVID patients in Spectrum’s intensive care units are unvaccinated.
  • All but one of the COVID patients on a ventilator as of Wednesday were unvaccinated.
  • Vaccinated patients are are averaging a day or two shorter hospital stay.
  • The average age of ICU vaccinated patients is about 75 compared to about 50 for unvaccinated patients in ICU.
  • Average age of vaccinated people who go on a vent is about 30 years older than ventilated patients who are unvaccinated.
And just for good measure, because mad libs are always undefeated, to keep the role reversal going:
Most of those who are fully vaccinated and are hospitalized “are elderly, they’re over the age of 75, or they have multiple medical conditions or are immunocompromised and did not have good response to the vaccine in the first place,” he said
oh how the turntables turn.
 
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https://www.mlive.com/public-intere...ated-spectrum-health-says.html?outputType=amp
And just for good measure, because mad libs are always undefeated, to keep the role reversal going:
oh how the turntables turn.
You just have to wonder what the variables are from region to region. In Chicago, for example, it’s only 70-75% of those hospitalized are unvaccinated. Hardly a ringing endorsement for vaccine efficacy. I’ll say it again, nothing has changed much other than our behavior. Behavior is driving this every bit as much as vaccine rate.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/1...icron-surge-hits-nearly-all-are-unvaccinated/
 
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You just have to wonder what the variables are from region to region. In Chicago, for example, it’s only 70-75% of those hospitalized are unvaccinated. Hardly a ringing endorsement for vaccine efficacy. I’ll say it again, nothing has changed much other than our behavior. Behavior is driving this every bit as much as vaccine rate.

https://blockclubchicago.org/2021/1...icron-surge-hits-nearly-all-are-unvaccinated/
Not following your logic here. If those 70-75% were vaccinated, it would seem logical that it would make a tremendous difference in those hospitalized and straining the system.
 
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