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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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ORD_Buckeye said:
No, but it's why we instituted government regulations mandating everything from radial tires to safety glass to seat belts and airbags. Plus, if I drive recklessly and kill myself and the driver of another car, that event doesn't start a chain where it directly causes the deaths of four more people next week, and those four then cause the deaths of four more each the following week and so on and so on.
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There was a giant fiery pileup on I-70 going into Denver last April. It all started with one vehicle.
 
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jwinslow said:
My company is forbidden from operating until the very last of the restrictions is lifted on large groups. Our ban will be at least 4 months and could easily last until a vaccine. That's without getting into whether our customer base will still be willing or able to spend when that comes around.

Of course, the flip side of that is that the inevitability of this is greater for me, with almost no chance to return to normal, so I also have little hope of this being fixed anytime soon. That surely colors my approach to this as well.
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Learn to code.
 
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Taosman said:
Covid is a "death chain" that makes one stupid selfish person responsible for the death of thousands. That's not a "car wreck" that's a mass murder. How many selfish people have to die and take multiples with them for us to say "enough"? A person out of work has the opportunity to find work in the future. Lose a job even a home you will still have an opportunity for another. Someone who dies has no future.
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Covid is a nasty strain of the common cold.
 
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jwinslow said:
The truth, like always, lies in the middle. Restoration comes from listening to and serving both. From realizing both sides are reeling and devastated.
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Amen. I wonder how much of the polarization of positions (both directions) we’re seeing comes from the belief that those who are in charge only care about one and not both? Mind you, I’m still pointing fingers at both sides. Those who are in the Body Kount Klub think the White House is pushing too hard / too fast to reopen; meanwhile the No-Masked Men are growing impatient of moving goal posts and a lack of discourse on the financial ramifications from these decisions — never mind the ‘don’t tread on me’ crowd (which I admittedly lean toward).
 
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lvbuckeye said:
Except sometimes you catch car wreck when someone is on their phone and runs a red light. :wink:
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When I was in college I wasn't watching where I was going bc traffic was literally moving at a snail's pace. I might as well have been in a parade. The guy in front of me stopped and I ended up smacking into the back of him. The impact was less than what you'd get doing bumper cars. I felt horrible....not just because I possibly put a ding in his car, and maybe gave him some minor whiplash....but because of how I just infected him with car crash. He probably went home and got the rest of his family sick with car crash too. My only consolation is that hopefully they were just old people, and thus expendable.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
There was a giant fiery pileup on I-70 going into Denver last April. It all started with one vehicle.
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Right, but it didn't directly result in two more giant fiery pileups the following week. If I have a heart attack, it doesn't cause four more people to have heart attacks in the following weeks. A pandemic is a pandemic. It's not a deadly accident or a heart attack or cancer. It has its own rules, and trying to pound the square peg into the round hole doesn't alter those rules.
 
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heisman said:
According to the UN, 130 million are going to starve to death without jobs. Most are young families. How are we treating them? This is not the black and white issue that you continue to make it.
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We should be providing monthly stimulus to everyone until the July/August. We should be more worried about small businesses and loans that could keep most of them afloat. We should be providing increased hazard pay ($15+) and PPE to everyone working in grocery stores and in warehouses who have to come in contact with hundreds of people a day.

But for a long time that's not what this country has been about. Instead we pumped trillions into the stock market that will almost certainly free fall again once people loose their homes and no one goes out for holiday spending because they have no money. We're more worried about padding Boeing's pockets who what, a year ago killed hundreds of people due to rushing out patches for a plane instead of taking a hit that would save lives?

Let's cut the shit when people try to accuse sides of caring more about body counts and less about unemployment & lost wages, as if we've cared about poverty, healthcare or shit dead-end minimum wage jobs for more than when it's useful. The US has not been a country about the working and middle class for decades now, and the result of that is we're really fucking showing out when it comes to disaster during a pandemic.

Outside of NY and NJ, cases are still rising. The US is going to hit 100k+ deaths by the end of May. Believe it, don't, it's up to you. But being concerned about deaths and infection counts doesn't make you a body count worshiper, and it doesn't make you blind to an awful economic situation. It just means the US has to do something that seems terrifying for some reason: pay its citizens monthly to stay home. And create another new deal to help it out of the depression that will be coming when this is over.

sorry for the wall of text
 
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