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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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heisman said:
None, but when they went to visit great grandma at Shady Pines....???
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you are likely right but wouldn't that be a major story or something tracked? again, i'm not being combative. i'm looking for hope and a glimmer of light and if what was feared by the spring break crown didn't happen or was much less than what people feared, wouldn't that be a good thing?
 
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Honor&Glory said:
you are likely right but wouldn't that be a major story or something tracked? again, i'm not being combative. i'm looking for hope and a glimmer of light and if what was feared by the spring break crown didn't happen or was much less than what people feared, wouldn't that be a good thing?
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No need to walk on eggshells around me brother! I've posted on this previously, but it is the asymptomatic spreaders that are causing the anarchy. If you had the flu, for example, would you go around puking on people? Of course not, but with this virus, you are possibly puking on people when you aren't puking at all. :biggrin2:
 
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Honor&Glory said:
curious...how many have died that were on spring break? it seems that 100k of them should be dead by now since this thing is the worst thing ever...before anyone jumps on me, its an honest question...
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Based on the reported 0.2% death rate for cases in the under 30 demographic, if the usual 1,500,000 college students went on spring break this year (let's assume that even though I think many stayed home) and all of them were infected, we'd expect 3,000 deaths. There's been no easy-to-find reporting since April 2 or so (a bunch of Texas spring breakers tested positive then and I don't know outcomes). I'd guess that a handful have died of it, but not many.
 
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Honor&Glory said:
you are likely right but wouldn't that be a major story or something tracked? again, i'm not being combative. i'm looking for hope and a glimmer of light and if what was feared by the spring break crown didn't happen or was much less than what people feared, wouldn't that be a good thing?
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At this point its not a major driver. (Major being relative go the situation as it is today).

As I type this, Worldometers has 43,xxx US deaths. 25,000 of them are in NJ, CT, and NY. You add up the next top 8 states (this is just me looking for 4 digit counts and quick math, these are gige or take numbers) and you're into 35K or so. But its really not even that... Its hotspots in metra areas in those states for the most part.

My suspicion is, if you had a localized NY metro map of deaths then overlayed the nyc rail map over it...
 
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Jagdaddy said:
No. The orders tend to be issued in response to a place already being hit hard or showing evidence of being about to be hit hard and in places with greater population density. Florida is interesting though. Unless they're under reporting, I would expect worse outcomes there: It may be that higher temperatures reduce how much virus survives or somehow weaken its ability to reproduce as quickly as it otherwise does.

With no actual knowledge whatsoever, I strongly suspect that how heavy one's initial exposure is makes a big difference in severity and outcome.
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The testing here is fairly limited, at least in my area that I'm aware of (Orlando metro). They did just open up one testing site in the area to anyone, symptomatic or not, so that should help...if they have more than a few hundred tests available, that is. I think the Miami area is doing better at testing, but I'm honestly not too sure. I've heard more about Ohio and NY than I have my own county since this whole thing started (and I follow more local news sources, if that tells you anything).
 
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AKAK said:
As I type this, Worldometers has 43,xxx US deaths. 25,000 of them are in NJ, CT, and NY. You add up the next top 8 states (this is just me looking for 4 digit counts and quick math, these are gige or take numbers) and you're into 35K or so. But its really not even that... Its hotspots in metra areas in those states for the most part.
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Totals for NJ, CT, and NY compared to next top eight states.

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For what's it's worth, but maybe the magic bullet is missing the magic?

A malaria drug widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus showed no benefit in a large analysis of its use in U.S. veterans hospitals. There were more deaths among those given hydroxychloroquine versus standard care, researchers reported.

The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment. But with 368 patients, it’s the largest look so far of hydroxychloroquine with or without the antibiotic azithromycin for COVID-19, which has killed more than 171,000 people as of Tuesday.

The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has has not been reviewed by other scientists. Grants from the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia paid for the work.

Researchers analyzed medical records of 368 male veterans hospitalized with confirmed coronavirus infection at Veterans Health Administration medical centers who died or were discharged by April 11.

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.

Hydroxychloroquine made no difference in the need for a breathing machine, either
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-deaths-no-benefit-malaria-160619592.html
 
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Trevi said:
For what's it's worth, but maybe the magic bullet is missing the magic?


https://www.yahoo.com/news/more-deaths-no-benefit-malaria-160619592.html
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Being a retiree who visits the VA center at least several times a year, I'd bet big money that over 90% of the 368 patients were not only "elderly" but also had multiple underlying factors. Not saying that hydroxychloroquine is the potential cure that some say, but using the VA hospitals is about the last place you'd want to test something that's geared for the population at large.
 
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Honor&Glory said:
curious...how many have died that were on spring break? it seems that 100k of them should be dead by now since this thing is the worst thing ever...before anyone jumps on me, its an honest question...
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I think that’s a good question. There were some reports of people having caught it, but I’ve not seen a lot of “died of Covid-19 and stupidity” in any obits.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
I think that’s a good question. There were some reports of people having caught it, but I’ve not seen a lot of “died of Covid-19 and stupidity” in any obits.
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Although I'm not sure the families are going to be pushing that angle, and I think even the media would mostly back away (unless of course one of the kids who said "party on" when interviewed by a "news" crew croaks in which case they'll gorge on schadenfreude). Still, I'd have expected to see an occasional story about Biff Drinklots, who below off the virus until it got him, by now.
 
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