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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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BB73 said:
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Hey all, Let's try to tone down the rhetoric somewhat.

Let's all realize that just because another poster has a position which is closer to 'we need to keep tougher mitigation efforts in place for a longer period of time', or 'we need to open up the economy at a faster pace' than your own position - doesn't mean that the poster has taken an extreme position on the opposite side of your opinion. And it doesn't mean that they deserve to be mocked or berated or called a name.

Yeah, like everybody else, I'm pissed off at this pandemic and what's it's done to the public health and what the reaction to it has done to the economy, and will continue to do in both situations.

And I'm tired of being stuck at home. But right now I'm more tired of reading this thread because people seem to be taking out some of their frustrations on each other.

So discuss the issues and present your opinions reasonably, and respect the opinions of others. Or I'll just assume you're a Vulvarine troll and act accordingly.
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I thought you were dead?
 
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Bucklion said:
Less PPE available, more overwhelmed hospital systems, less ventilators, more people dying of other things that can’t be treated as well, nosocomial COVID infections...
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PPE is a factor of people working in the hospital, not the number of patients. I agree with hospital systems being stressed more (thus my comment about inundating emergency rooms) along with there being less ventilators, but can you name an instance where at any time was any ER anywhere even close to running out of ventilators? Hell, the governor of Washington state wanted to return 400 ventilators back to the federal government.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
PPE is a factor of people working in the hospital, not the number of patients. I agree with hospital systems being stressed more (thus my comment about inundating emergency rooms) along with there being less ventilators, but can you name an instance where at any time was any ER anywhere even close to running out of ventilators? Hell, the governor of Washington state wanted to return 400 ventilators back to the federal government.
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You do realize that PPE gets used up by taking care of a series of very sick patients, right?
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Yep, and for the most part the same amount of PPE is used whether that "series of very sick patients" numbers 2 or 10.
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No, when you have a normal amount of patients, you swap out PPE all of the time.

When you have an extreme amount and protective gear is a ego measuring stick, you get to wear the same PPE all day long. You get to break all kinds of protocols because the alternative is to soon run out of all ppe.
 
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