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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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ginn421 said:
Dude. Just...stop.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about on this subject.

From being in The James frequently over the past week, I can tell you directly you are wrong.
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Key words being "over the past week"...if you think that was SOP six months ago, then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe the fine folks at The James need to contact the Spark Matsunaga VA Medical Center, Tripler Army Regional Medical Center, and the Hawaii Endoscopy Center and let them know that they need to change gowns /masks for every patient. From visiting the first two centers about a half dozen times a year, I can assure you that, aside when gloves were required (e.g., the med lab techs drawing blood), doctors/nurses weren't changing their PPE (gowns, or mask if they even had one) for each patient they saw. And if you think the med lab tech drawing blood is going to replace his/her mask for each person from whom he/she is drawing blood...
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
You just proved my point on PPE usage being a factor of the amount people working in the hospital, not the number of patients


Ever watched how often doctors/nurses change gowns and face masks in the real world even prior to the virus breakout? Not often. Now, PPE (gowns, gloves and masks) is supposed to be treated as single use, but note how often gowns and masks were changed. I've seen medical people walk around in the same fucking gown nearly the whole day, while having their mask hanging around their necks...and cloth/cotton gowns are re-washable, unlike masks. As for latex gloves, yeah, everyone shit-cans them after one use. But unless you're either the operating room itself or prepping someone for surgery, fresh PPE isn't always used.
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As having gone through nursing school (and supposed to test for the NCLEX; until the site closed for the virus), this is not protocol. The cloth gowns are torn off after each room. That can cross-contaminate to others patients, especially TB and C-diff. There are bins located outside of each room to put the gowns. Masks aren't usually used unless there is an airborne issue (usually ICU and ER).
 
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TDunk said:
As having gone through nursing school (and supposed to test for the NCLEX; until the site closed for the virus), this is not protocol. The cloth gowns are torn off after each room. That can cross-contaminate to others patients, especially TB and C-diff. There are bins located outside of each room to put the gowns. Masks aren't usually used unless there is an airborne issue (usually ICU and ER).
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Maybe I didn't notice the discarding of gowns in bins in other rooms. What I did notice is that personnel were walking around in the (apparently) same gowns. Thanks for the clarification.
 
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jwinslow said:
I don't put a lot of stock in this source, but know too many first hand accounts of this sort of thing. I also heard of worse rationing back in advance of the lockdowns, as they were preparing to run out.

New York Post : Nurses suspended for refusing to treat coronavirus patients without N95 masks.
https://nypost.com/2020/04/16/nurses-suspended-for-refusing-to-treat-patients-without-n95-masks/
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Suspending nurses in NYC, but laying them off in many other places. Seems a good way to solve things would be to offer some type of re balancing (urban-rural) with a hefty amount of disaster pay for those available and willing.
 
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heisman said:
After only 3+ weeks of annoying one another in our own homes, there really is no other choice but to protest!......... :biggrin2:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/p...g-coronavirus-pandemic/ar-BB12H5LI?li=BBnb7Kz
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Governor Whitmer’s response in Michigan is that she understands the protestors frustration and she respects their right to protest. She goes on to say that by doing this they may have increased the spread and could force the lockdown to go longer. Again, look at the numbers in the State and realize where the problem is.....
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
British Fashion Brand Barbour Pivots From Wax Jackets To Medical Gowns Amid PPE Shortage

They may have their own unique smell, smear wax on the furniture and need to be repaired every couple of years, but I defy any virus to penetrate the Barbour Medical Gown.
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Ive always wanted a waxed hunting jacket. Looks like orvis distributes these in the US.

Meanwhile, because its me...

Bonds-Skyfall-Barbour-Jacket-1087x725.jpg


Here we have Daniel Craig in skyfall in a barbour Jacket. (Hey, that was a good movie)

What's that thing he's holding.

Well, that there is a express double rifle by Anderson Wheeler in .500 nitro express.

Real 19th century african dangerous game kinda shit.

http://andersonwheeler.co.uk/the-gun-room/double-rifle/
 
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AKAK said:
Ive always wanted a waxed hunting jacket. Looks like orvis distributes these in the US.

Meanwhile, because its me...

Bonds-Skyfall-Barbour-Jacket-1087x725.jpg


Here we have Daniel Craig in skyfall in a barbour Jacket. (Hey, that was a good movie)

What's that thing he's holding. W

that there is a express double rifle by Anderson Wheeler in .500 nitro express.

Real 19th century african dangerous game kinda shit.

http://andersonwheeler.co.uk/the-gun-room/double-rifle/
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Barbour is a lot like Omega with the special editions. I'm sure the Skyfall jacket is long gone by now. Start with one of the three basic jackets: Border, Bedale or Beaufort. They're all essentially hunting/shooting jackets. I have a 15 year old Border that after extensive repairs (roughly equal to the cost of a new coat) is as good as new. I also picked up a limited edition collaboration with Land Rover that's pretty damned close to the Skyfall jacket. Orvis has them on clearance for over 130 clams off the original price, though the blue option appears to be gone.

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Jake said:
Not for an epidemiologist. This branch of science exists for reasons, one of which being it's more reliable than message board opinions of people who haven't studied it.
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They are not infallible. So far some of the "top" scientists have been so far off with their predictions I would be embarrassed if I were them. And they factored in "social distancing" etc.
 
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