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Coronavirus (COVID-19) is too exciting for adults to discuss (CLOSED)

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Jaxbuck said:
no decision has to be made by anyone.

you lay a shiv down in the floor between them and let them decide.

we are not savages
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Italy is a fairly unique situation, in that:
1) They had over 100,000 people from Wuhan come over to one of the towns hardest hit less than two years ago...essentially Italy's Ground Zero
2) The have the highest percentage of elderly--and most vulnerable--population in Europe, with over 22% of its people being 65 or older
3) While other countries shut down their borders, Italy did not immediately do so
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Is there any evidence that the US will not follow in Italy's path if we don't practice social distancing? Even though we don't have those 3 unique situations, I see no reason why the virus can't spread quickly through the US and overwhelm the US healthcare system given the sources that I quoted. It's not like those 3 situations are required for the virus to spread in the US.

I guess I'm not even sure your position. Just wanted to point out that you shouldn't focus on deaths when assessing the pandemic.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
2) The have the highest percentage of elderly--and most vulnerable--population in Europe, with over 22% of its people being 65 or older
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22.0% of Italy = 13.3M older than 65
16.7% of USA = 54.65M older than 65
"There's beds, and then there's ICU beds in a negative pressure room," said Soumi Saha, a senior director of advocacy at Premier, which works with hospitals around the US.

To increase capacity, she said, EvergreenHealth in Kirkland, Washington, an early epicenter of the US COVID-19 outbreak, put 58 patients in 15 negative pressure rooms that typically hold one patient each. Premier is set to survey the hospitals it works with to get a sense of how much added ICU capacity each is able to make in light of the outbreak beyond their normal capacities.
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Dr. Craig Coopersmith, interim director of the Emory Critical Care Center, oversees 300 ICU beds. He told Business Insider in March that many ICUs around the country are full on any given day.
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Where are we putting all of these medium to severe cases? Particularly the non-olds that eat up hospital space and resources for a long time and don't die?
 
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Taosman said:
Not yet but it's going to happen dipshit. An as my post said grandma and grandpa and other families will die. Parents will die, loved ones will die. Why are you trying to defend the lack of response?

COVID-19 appears on average to be much milder in children than it does in healthy adults or in older adults. Of the first 70,000 patients in China diagnosed with COVID-19, only 2.1 percent were children under 19 years old. No children under the age of 9 died according to this report. Only one death was reported in a child 10-19 years.https://intermountainhealthcare.org...3/covid-19-and-children-what-you-should-know/
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Because the extent of the response is unwarranted relative to the destruction that the response is causing elsewhere. People fucking die, dipshit.
 
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MililaniBuckeye said:
Italy is a fairly unique situation, in that:
1) They had over 100,000 people from Wuhan come over to one of the towns hardest hit less than two years ago...essentially Italy's Ground Zero
2) The have the highest percentage of elderly--and most vulnerable--population in Europe, with over 22% of its people being 65 or older
3) While other countries shut down their borders, Italy did not immediately do so
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+ Pollution
+ Incidence of smoking

They are going to die at a much higher rate than the rest of the world based on that combination. Just the facts of the matter.
 
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heisman said:
We got the cure. Let’s go!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ad-he-says-hydroxychloroquine-saved-his-life/
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Yup... been talking about this for over a week and it’s clearly gaining attention since Trump mentioned it last Thursday. This is the first example in the US from which I’ve seen anecdotal evidence... and while it’s promising, I’ll take with a mild helping of salt considering the publisher is very pro-Trump. Not that I’m disputing the claim, but I’m praying for an independent body to publish more results like this... If for no other reason than to depoliticize a positive event in this mess.

If this does what it’s suggested it can do, this will rapidly decrease the rate of contraction. A combination of this and (hopefully) a shortened social-distancing period will minimize the chances that we exhaust the health care system’s capacity.
 
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jwinslow said:
22.0% of Italy = 13.3M older than 65
16.7% of USA = 54.65M older than 65

Where are we putting all of these medium to severe cases? Particularly the non-olds that eat up hospital space and resources for a long time and don't die?
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You're assuming that the infection/death rate is going to the same as, or near to, what Italy had. Keep in mind that Italy was hard-hit early...we aren't. Aside from NYC, fortunately that haven't been many areas matching the per-capita infection levels of Italy.
 
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