College Playoff

[BB73]

And your win would be because you needed an unfair advantage (weather than no southern team experiences, as opposed to the current play in dome temperature weather northern schools experience for the majority of their season) to prevail.

Says the guy whose team is about to play for the NC in their home state, something that has been geographically impossible for tOSU since they started voting after the bowls about 40 years ago.

Northern teams have to game plan for good weather and bad. I'd like to see Southern teams face the same requirement.

 

[redbenn]

all this playoff talk... the media wants you to think everyone wants a playoff... then why does 2/3's of ESPN.com sportsnation want to talk about the BCS, and not the NFL playoff hunt?

what i'm getting at... not having a playoff is better for the media, since people have something to argue about, and will tune in... therefore especially w/ espn having the bcs, no playoff is going to happen

 

[Buckeyefrankmp]

Why can't the NC Game be played a little more North in places like Atlanta (Georgia Dome), St. Louis (Edward Jones Dome), Detroit (Ford Field), Indianapolis (Lucas Oil Field) and Minneapolis (Metro Dome). The NCAA basketball tourney and the Super Bowl ventures North during the cold weather months.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

And your win would be because you needed an unfair advantage (weather than no southern team experiences, as opposed to the current play in dome temperature weather northern schools experience for the majority of their season) to prevail.

Hey, it would be good for you, I'll admit.

You're right. LSU playing in New Orleans was not a home field advantage at all. Playing USC or UCLA in the Rose Bowl affords no home field advantage whatsoever to the SoCal team.

Nobody in the NFL whines about an unfair advantage if the 49ers lose a first round game in Green Bay or Chicago and say that it compromises the playoff system. Why should college be any different? Heaven forbid the SEC ever actually have to leave the SE to play a fucking football game.

 

[Bucklion]

And your win would be because you needed an unfair advantage (weather than no southern team experiences, as opposed to the current play in dome temperature weather northern schools experience for the majority of their season) to prevail.

Hey, it would be good for you, I'll admit.

Yeah because Penn State in '86 and Ohio State in 2002 couldn't beat an "invincible" southern team (complete with army fatigues and soljahs) without it

Face it...does anyone REALLY think Miami would have had half their national titles if they didn't play in a HOME bowl game seemingly every year back then? When they left the Orange Bowl (1986, 1992, 2002) they often got beat.

 

[sandgk]

all this playoff talk... the media wants you to think everyone wants a playoff... then why does 2/3's of ESPN.com sportsnation want to talk about the BCS, and not the NFL playoff hunt?



what i'm getting at... not having a playoff is better for the media, since people have something to argue about, and will tune in... therefore especially w/ espn having the bcs, no playoff is going to happen

Perxactly - Be careful what you wish for.

The entire dynamic of the college football season would change if we switched to a playoff. The result would be less wonderful than those seeking playoff purity believe.

 

[mooktarr]

BCS or playoff you would still have teams complaining that they should be in because they beat someone.

 

[Dryden]

all this playoff talk... the media wants you to think everyone wants a playoff... then why does 2/3's of ESPN.com sportsnation want to talk about the BCS, and not the NFL playoff hunt?

Really, that graphic might as well be 85-90% pro-college. It's the chowderheads in New England that think the sports world revolves around the Jets, Giants, Knicks, Pats, Celtics, Yankees, and Sox that skew these polls everytime they come around.

P.S.: Fuck you, Bill Simmons. I'm so sick of you already.

 

[Gatorubet]

As opposed to the advantage that most bowl teams enjoy against Big 10 teams: shorter travel distance (or virtual home games - LSU and USC) and shorter lay-offs leading up to the bowl games. I know we've been over this repeatedly - somebody gets screwed either way. However, once in a while I'd like to see someone other than a Big 10 team screwed by the bowl system.

I agree (make that still agree ) with you about the bowl proximity to southern teams. That, IMO, is different from making teams that never play in the snow do so at bowl time. That would be an advantage far greater than a Big-10 team having to play a bowl game in Florida versus an SEC team type advantage.

Do you guys complain about the Rose Bowl being too Pac-10 friendly too, or is it just the South that is the problem?

 

[redbenn]

As opposed to the advantage that most bowl teams enjoy against Big 10 teams: shorter travel distance (or virtual home games - LSU and USC) and shorter lay-offs leading up to the bowl games. I know we've been over this repeatedly - somebody gets screwed either way. However, once in a while I'd like to see someone other than a Big 10 team screwed by the bowl system.

i think the layoff actually benefits the buckeyes this year... gets beanie more healthy, and gives pryor an extra couple weeks to practice timing routes with his wr's

 

[Gatorubet]

You're right. LSU playing in New Orleans was not a home field advantage at all. Playing USC or UCLA in the Rose Bowl affords no home field advantage whatsoever to the SoCal team.

Nobody in the NFL whines about an unfair advantage if the 49ers lose a first round game in Green Bay or Chicago and say that it compromises the playoff system. Why should college be any different? Heaven forbid the SEC ever actually have to leave the SE to play a fucking football game.

Go get that strawman Ord!!

Edit: By that I mean you are going on about LSU in the Sugar when I have never said that it was not an advantage. I mean, feel free to keep bringing it up, but don't attribute to me an implied opposition to that conclusion because you disagree with me on some other point.

As to the NFL, they play all around the country as part of their regular schedule. It is also true that most OOC games take place near the beginning of the season, rather than at the end. If we played Oregon in September or Michigan State in September or October it would not be the snow bowl thing you all go on about. Nobody in the South plays in the snow on a routine basis. And please show me where y'all routinely go south to play in the heat and humidity the first two weeks in September, because you just don't.

 

[TheIronColonel]

Oh no, believe me when I say that I get lathered up over USC and UCLA getting a home game in the Rose Bowl. As I said before: someone is going to get screwed, and I accept that. I'd just like to occasionally be at the other end of the stick, know what I mean?

 

[BB73]

I agree (make that still agree ) with you about the bowl proximity to southern teams. That, IMO, is different from making teams that never play in the snow do so at bowl time. That would be an advantage far greater than a Big-10 team having to play a bowl game in Florida versus an SEC team type advantage.

Do you guys complain about the Rose Bowl being too Pac-10 friendly too, or is it just the South that is the problem?

Since tOSU won the BCS on a neutral geographical location 6 years ago, USC has once played for a BCS Title in their backyard, and this year will mark the third time in the last 6 years that an SEC team has played for the title in its home state. The BCS Title games after 2004 and 2006 were neutral.

But it's not just an SEC thing that we believe to be unfair to northern teams. It's not just title games, either. USC keeps beating Big 10 teams in the Rose Bowl with hometown advantage, which hurts the perception of the league.

 

[Ballard4Heisman]

ESPN - Congressmantakes aim at Bowl Championship Series

WASHINGTON -- Taking aim at a BCS system he said "consistently misfires," a member of Congress planned to introduce legislation Wednesday that would force college football to adopt a playoff to determine the national champion.

This doesn't really seem like the kind of thing congress should spend its time on, but at this point I'm all for them passing such a bill. Its the only way a playoff will happen in the next decade.

 

[HailToMichigan]

He said the bill -- being co-sponsored by Reps. Bobby Rush, an Illinois Democrat, and Michael McCaul, a Texas Republican -- "will prohibit the marketing, promotion, and advertising of a postseason game as a 'national championship' football game, unless it is the result of a playoff system.

They'll just officially call it the BCS championship then.

But this is fucking stupid, and not just because I hate the idea of a playoff. Seriously, don't the leaders of the free world have anything better to do? Don't they have a war to win, a deficit to tackle, a national debt to pay down, an economy to fix, crime and hunger to solve, AIDS and cancer to cure, ANYTHING AT ALL?? What a stupid colossal waste of taxpayer time and money.