College Playoff

[Nutriaitch]

Are you a fan of home playoff games over pseudo-neutral site games?

undecided on that one


right now, being the one seed earns you nothing but the choice of jersey color for the game.

the site is per-determined before matchup is even known.
fan distribution will typically be decided by who is closer to home/larger fanbase.

typically, the difference between #1 and #4 isn't drastic.

so there really is very little benefit to being the #1 seed rather than the #4 seed.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

If you're saying that 72 degrees indoors is a disadvantage to y'all. I'm not buying it.

Don't give a shit what you're buying. The fact that a controlled climate favors teams that play it in all the time vice actually playing in actual weather is pretty obvious. Note that the only ones here pitching a fit about having to play games above the MDL outside of a dome are SEC fans. Fuck that. Bring your SEC asses in north in December. You won't, because you'll get your collective asses handed to you on the field...

 

[IronBuckI]

How many Big Ten stadiums are capable of hosting a mid to late December game? I know that the Vikings didn't want to use the University of Minnesota's brand new stadium, when the Metrodome roof collapsed, because the new stadium wasn't built for use in winter. Uninsulated pipes and no heat pretty much anywhere, including the artificial surface. The Vikings did eventually play there, but that game might as well have been played on a parking lot.

Obviously, Minnesota doesn't need to worry about playing in the playoffs anytime soon, but Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, and Wiscy all have very old stadiums, with artificial surfaces, and all seem to have a realistic shot at playing in the playoffs in the not too distant future.

I don't know if we ever get a cold weather playoff game, but my assumption is that it would have to be played in a pro stadium that was actually built to host games deep into the winter.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

I don't know if we ever get a cold weather playoff game, but my assumption is that it would have to be played in a pro stadium that was actually built to host games deep into the winter.

You've heard of the "Snow Bowl", right? The Shoe is more than capable of holding a game in mid-December, as is the Pig House, Slappy Valley, Damp Cramhole, etc.

 

[Nutriaitch]

Don't give a shit what you're buying. The fact that a controlled climate favors teams that play it in all the time vice actually playing in actual weather is pretty obvious. Note that the only ones here pitching a fit about having to play games above the MDL outside of a dome are SEC fans. Fuck that. Bring your SEC asses in north in December. You won't, because you'll get your collective asses handed to you on the field...

Not what I said at all

I said if you want to give that advantage to the high seed, I'm all for it.

I just don't want to give it out to sheer random luck of a predetermined draw.

Give the high seed something more than just choice of jersey color.

 

[IronBuckI]

You've heard of the "Snow Bowl", right? The Shoe is more than capable of holding a game in mid-December, as is the Pig House, Slappy Valley, Damp Cramhole, etc.

All are capable of cramming a bunch of people into a completely unprepared stadium, and throwing some guys on the field where the perceived best strategy was to sometimes punt on first down.

That wasn't my question. The question was whether they were capable, of hosting an actual football game, and allowing 105,000 people the chance to use a toilet that has running water.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

That wasn't my question. The question was whether they were capable, of hosting an actual football game, and allowing 105,000 people the chance to use a toilet that has running water.

You don't think The Shoe is capable? Do all the comodes and urinals there freeze when the temp is below 32 degrees?

 

[Nutriaitch]

You don't think The Shoe is capable? Do all the comodes and urinals there freeze when the temp is below 32 degrees?

if the pipes aren't insulated, yeah.

at least that was the story for minnesota when the Vikings had to use their stadium.

 

[IronBuckI]

You don't think The Shoe is capable?

That's what I'm asking. That was the problem in Minnesota with their brand new stadium. The pipes weren't insulated. They winterize the stadium by draining the pipes. Parts of Ohio Stadium are occupied year round, but that doesn't mean that the stadium is capable of hosting 105,000+ during the winter.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

if the pipes aren't insulated, yeah.

at least that was the story for minnesota when the Vikings had to use their stadium.

That's what I'm asking. That was the problem in Minnesota with their brand new stadium. The pipes weren't insulated. They winterize the stadium by draining the pipes. Parts of Ohio Stadium are occupied year round, but that doesn't mean that the stadium is capable of hosting 105,000+ during the winter.

The Shoe has had dozens upon dozens of games at near to below freezing temps. Keep in mind that B1G stadiums would host games only if its team hosted a playoff game...I'm not suggesting that The Shoe host a game between USC and LSU. That would pretty much leave out Minnesota as a playoff site. I was at The Game in 2008 and it was below freezing during the game and there were no problems with the restrooms.

 

[Onebuckfan]

Mytwo cents..another reason northern teams are at a disadvantage in Bowls in warm weather sites..its easy for LSU Miami Fla etc, to maintain their physical condition during the 40 day lay off..sure tOSU can workout inside but NCAA limits practice but the rest of the day is spent in 30 to 40 degree weather that is not the same as being in Fla where your walking around in shorts ..as evidence in that Bowl in Orlando when it was barely 50 degrees out Wisconsin was running around in short sleeves and Miami were wearing gloves by the heater. And I'm sure Wisc. never practiced outside the whole time but they were conditioned to cool weather by living in it.

 

[Nutriaitch]

I'm not suggesting that The Shoe host a game between USC and LSU.

that was my point all along.

an open air cold weather stadium should only be used as an advantage to the higher seed.

don't randomly select it years in advance.

2 warm weather teams shouldn't play there.

and #4 Michigan should not get a "home" game against #1 LSU.
Michigan did not earn the right to have that advantage against the #1 seed.

but if OSU is #1 and play in the snow against #4 Bama, no problem.
OSU as the 1 seed EARNED that homefield advantage.

 

[LovelandBuckeye]

that was my point all along.

an open air cold weather stadium should only be used as an advantage to the higher seed.

don't randomly select it years in advance.

2 warm weather teams shouldn't play there.

and #4 Michigan should not get a "home" game against #1 LSU.
Michigan did not earn the right to have that advantage against the #1 seed.

but if OSU is #1 and play in the snow against #4 Bama, no problem.
OSU as the 1 seed EARNED that homefield advantage.

Tracking, but only if LSU plays at 11:00 EST if they get HFA not a night game where you fuckers are drunk and really loud. It scares the opposing team.

 

[Nutriaitch]

Tracking, but only if LSU plays at 11:00 EST if they get HFA not a night game where you fuckers are drunk and really loud. It scares the opposing team.

thanks to the bullshit CBS deal our conference has, 2011 was the first time since the 30's we didn't play a single SEC night game at home.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

On the racism topic.

The 5 states with the worst reputation (SC, GA, AL, MS, LA)
all have a significantly higher percentage of black people than states like Ohio, Mich, Penn.

Higher % leads to more interaction between the races.
More interaction increases the likelihood of issues.

Those 5 states with worse rep all fall in the top 7 in us for blacks per capita.
9 of the 11 states that seceded fall in the top 12 per capita (Florida #15, Texas #20).

Sometimes the answers are not nearly as deep as some try to make them.
Simple mathematics is probably a huge part of the reason for our reputation.

Or it could be because you shipped them across the Middle Passage in chains and fucking enslaved them. That might have a little to do with it.