College Playoff

[MililaniBuckeye]

Because southerners are pussies.

Besides that...

 

[Muck]

Besides that...

Besides that it makes no sense ... they live in a giant open air sauna yet they are statistically the fattest people in the US. You'd think they'd welcome a little cool air.

 

[Nutriaitch]

JFC. If it's above the Mason-Dixon Line, then why must in be in a fucking dome? Fuck that. Play the game outside, in the cold and elements like football was meant to be played.

Translation:
You don't actually care about location or % of fans in the stadium.
You need the cold to compete?

 

[Nutriaitch]

On the racism topic.

The 5 states with the worst reputation (SC, GA, AL, MS, LA)
all have a significantly higher percentage of black people than states like Ohio, Mich, Penn.

Higher % leads to more interaction between the races.
More interaction increases the likelihood of issues.

Those 5 states with worse rep all fall in the top 7 in us for blacks per capita.
9 of the 11 states that seceded fall in the top 12 per capita (Florida #15, Texas #20).

Sometimes the answers are not nearly as deep as some try to make them.
Simple mathematics is probably a huge part of the reason for our reputation.

 

[jwinslow]

Translation:
You don't actually care about location or % of fans in the stadium.

Or we care about more than one thing.

You need the cold to compete?

No.

If we scheduled LSU as our next big OOC home-n-away series, but refused to play anywhere but an air conditioned dome because it's hot in september, we would be mocked endlessly, and rightly so.

It's not tennis or golf. It's football.

 

[ucfknight]

When did this become a topic about racism?

 

[greyscarlet]

Translation:
You don't actually care about location or % of fans in the stadium.
You need the cold to compete?

You need the heat to compete?

 

[Nutriaitch]

Or we care about more than one thing.
No.

If we scheduled LSU as our next big OOC home-n-away series, but refused to play anywhere but an air conditioned dome because it's hot in september, we would be mocked endlessly, and rightly so.

It's not tennis or golf. It's football.

You need the heat to compete?

are we talking OOC games during regular season, or bowl games in January?
average temps at these "SEC" bowl sites is like 70 degrees.
not exactly hot.
in fact, it is right around the temp in domes.
meaning temperature does not pose a negative effect on northern teams playing in them.


if we talking regular season when temps actually are hot, note that Ohio St. has played in only 1 regular season game vs the SEC in an SEC stadium since World War ONE ended.
Y'all have however invited our cellar dwellers Kentucky and Vandy to the 'Shoe twice each.


and before y'all start harping about SEC teams never playing out of the "region", also note that every SEC school not named Tennessee has made at least 1 trip to a Big Ten stadium in the same time.
Vandy* (14), Kentucky* (20), Bama* (1), LSU (3), Ole Miss (2), Miss St (8) have all ventured into Big Ten territory multiple times during that stretch.


*Note: not including Vandy (2), Kentucky (2), Bama (6) trips to Happy Valley prior to them joining the Big Ten, or any trips anyone made to Nebraska prior to last year.

 

[cincibuck]

When did this become a topic about racism?

When people started claiming that "for decades bowl games have traditionally been played in warm weather locations" because that's the way the game was supposed to be played.

Such statements ignore 1) that the game was started in New Jersey - hardly a "warm weather location," and 2) that for decades (20s - 60s) all bowl games except the Rose Bowl were played in states where athletic competition between whites and blacks was prohibited by state law and thus northern teams were excluded from playing. (see Syracuse and the Cotton Bowl)

 

[jwinslow]

The point is it would be absurd to demand an air conditioned game because we're not used to dealing with your level of heat in late august or early september. Or would you find that to be a reasonable stance?

if we talking regular season when temps actually are hot, note that Ohio St. has played in only 1 regular season game vs the SEC in an SEC stadium since World War ONE ended.

A home-n-away series with LSU. The other two voyages north were to Bloomington

and before y'all start harping about SEC teams never playing out of the "region", also note that every SEC school not named Tennessee has made at least 1 trip to a Big Ten stadium in the same time.
Vandy* (14), Kentucky* (20), Bama* (1), LSU (3), Ole Miss (2), Miss St (8) have all ventured into Big Ten territory multiple times during that stretch.

So in other words, 2 major SEC @ B10 games since WWI (Bama @ PSU, LSU @ OSU) both of which had return trips to the SEC.

I'm not counting 2 LSU trips to Bloomington as challenging (4-4 & 1-10 those years).

It is ironic that Tenn was the outlier, since they were the OOC matchup scheduled for '18 & 19 until the P12/B1G challenge got in the way. Either that or the heat :)

 

[Nutriaitch]

The point is it would be absurd to demand an air conditioned game because we're not used to dealing with your level of heat in late august or early september. Or would you find that to be a reasonable stance?

but teams can choose weather or not to travel to adverse weather for OOC regular season games.

teams don't have a choice on the bowl location.

and i've said it before. if it's tied to home field for the higher seed, then i'm all for it. that team "earned" the advantage the weather provides. much like Green bay in the NFL.

if it's just a random draw decide years in advance, #4 (insert northern team) should not have an advantage over #1 (insert warm weather team) just by pure luck.

A home-n-away series with LSU. The other two voyages north were to Bloomington
So in other words, 2 major SEC @ B10 games since WWI (Bama @ PSU, LSU @ OSU) both of which had return trips to the SEC.

I'm not counting 2 LSU trips to Bloomington as challenging (4-4 & 1-10 those years).

not saying it was challenging.
just pointing out that it's a two way street.

as shown by Vandy and Kentucky making the most trips up north, the Big ten does the same thing the SEC does.
invite bottom feeders from other conferences to fill home dates on the schedule.

other than that, it's a rarity for either one to play at the other's stadium.

It is ironic that Tenn was the outlier, since they were the OOC matchup scheduled for '18 & 19 until the P12/B1G challenge got in the way. Either that or the heat :)

they did play Iowa and Wisconsin in the Meadowlands back in the '80s.
Iowa in kickoff classic, and Wisconsin in a Bowl game.

but i don't count those.

 

[jwinslow]

and i've said it before. if it's tied to home field for the higher seed, then i'm all for it. that team "earned" the advantage the weather provides. much like Green bay in the NFL.

Are you a fan of home playoff games over pseudo-neutral site games?

as shown by Vandy and Kentucky making the most trips up north, the Big ten does the same thing the SEC does.
invite bottom feeders from other conferences to fill home dates on the schedule.

Yes, but most don't go 10-50 years without scheduling a game out of the Midwest like Georgia, Florida and others.

Overall they pad their schedules, it's just how many exceptions each school has :)

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Translation:
You don't actually care about location or % of fans in the stadium.
You need the cold to compete?

Holy fucking shit, dude. Are you trying to play that stupid? We simply are saying don't require that games in cold weather regions be played in a dome...is that so hard to comprehend?

And don't even fucking bring that weak shit about "% of fans in the stadium" 'cuz we rule the fucking roost there. You bring LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Southern Cal, etc., to The Shoe in mid-December for a first-round playoff game and there will be 105,000+ fans in the stands, even if it's 0 degrees out and two feet of snow outside the stadium.

 

[Bleed S & G]

I merely called your schools carnie colleges.

 

[Nutriaitch]

Holy fucking shit, dude. Are you trying to play that stupid? We simply are saying don't require that games in cold weather regions be played in a dome...is that so hard to comprehend?

And don't even fucking bring that weak shit about "% of fans in the stadium" 'cuz we rule the fucking roost there. You bring LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Southern Cal, etc., to The Shoe in mid-December for a first-round playoff game and there will be 105,000+ fans in the stands, even if it's 0 degrees out and two feet of snow outside the stadium.

I mentioned the Sugar Bowl specifically.

the proximity to campus and % of fans in building it the advantage we have by playing there.

I suggested swapping dome sites for one closer to Columbus.
Which would then give y'all the same advantage we enjoy with the Superdome.

People responding that it needs to be in cold/snow makes it sound like weather is more of an issue than travel time/fan distribution.

Superdome/Georgia Dome/Jerry World.
All indoor stadiums in SEC country bidding for playoff spot.

Weather is not an advantage or disadvantage to any of the teams selected to play in them.

If you're complaining of travel time and home crowds, I absolutely agree with y'all.
Y'all are 100% correct that those aspects definitely favor us.

If you're saying that 72 degrees indoors is a disadvantage to y'all. I'm not buying it.