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Apache;1901956; said:
Playoffs in Football

Ok Here is a "half-baked" way to do this without adding too much to the year.

Every conference has divisions with 8 teams. 7 Games played

Conference championships. 1 game played

16 Teams make playoffs 5 games to the Championship

Total= 13 games
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Or we could leave it the way it is a lot of folks have something to grouse about.:biggrin:

So, the other 90 something teams only get to play 7 games a year.

Good luck with making that happen. :roll2:
 
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buckeyegrad;1902027; said:
Don't get me wrong, I support a playoff system; and I actually like your idea to a certain degree, just the numbers as you presented them would never work.

Personally, my ideal for college football would be even more crazy and unlikely: go to four mega-conferences of 20 teams each and dump the bottom-feeders from the MAC, WAC, Sunbelt, etc. Each conference would be two divisions of 10 teams and you play everyone in your division (9 games). Plus, you get 3 games out of division, but you can only schedule other mega-conference schools--no bottom-feeders. This system would pretty much guarantee a school at least 5 home games a year, and it could be as high as 7 or 8.

You have your conference championships and the four winners go into a playoff. All other teams at .500 go to bowl games as in the current system, but again, without the bottom-feeders. Yes, to win the championship, you would have to play 15 games, but that would only be 2 schools. The overwhelming majority of programs would still only play 12-13 games. Oh, and did I mention, I don't want any bottom-feeders!

The system I always had in my head was very similar, but I'd make it 4 - 16 team superconferences and make the conference championship games part of the playoff system - so you could at least call it an 8 team playoff.

There are a great number of devils in the details, but I imagine it is pretty close to what we'll eventually end up with.

I just hope I'm dead and gone before it gets here.
 
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Who would govern these conferences? Who'd be in charge of the mega/super conferences?

Great ideas, but oversight of these conferences would have to be paramount.

I say let's get Junker to oversee them. :biggrin:

He can Make it RAIIIIIIN!
 
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Cfb was hurtling towards four sixteen team conferences until Texas got paid. It is still a strong possibility just not away quickly.

As for oversight, the existing conferences can govern themselves, though they would still need a governing body over them.

It isn't a coincidence that the ncaa suddenly became interested in holding teams accountable in the last few years as CFB was shifting to a new alignment. They have always been laughable hypocritical and now all of a sudden they are cracking down on pro agents, street agents, memorabilia sales, but more importantly the cash cows are no longer getting slaps on the wrist when they get caught. Admittedly, Auburn was the exception to the rule.

Why would the new BCS leagues bring the ncaa with them in football if their system actually enables cheating with the lack of enforcement, willful ignorance and powerless investigating they typically employ.
 
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jwinslow;1902264; said:
They have always been laughable hypocritical and now all of a sudden they are cracking down on pro agents, street agents, memorabilia sales, but more importantly the cash cows are no longer getting slaps on the wrist when they get caught. Admittedly, Auburn was the exception to the rule.
I think a "not so fast my friend" is appropriate here... It ain't over by a long shot with Auburn.
 
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Gatorubet;1902304; said:
I think a "not so fast my friend" is appropriate here... It ain't over by a long shot with Auburn.
Definitely, but they went against their newfound ethics when instantly reinstating him when at least a week off was justified just for the attempt at cheating alone, let alone the volume or evidence everyone knew they would find within months, if they didn't have it already.
 
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Saw31;1900025; said:
So an NCAA playoff produces "the best team" to claim a Nat'l Championship eh? That regular season sure means a lot now, don't it...

The post that brought this thread back from the dead after almost 3 months, no doubt a reaction to top seed Ohio State losing in the sweet 16 of the tournament.

If the Buckeyes were an 8 seed playing in the Final Four tonight this post would've never been made, and this thread would still be sleeping. Say it ain't so. :wink:
 
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Jake;1902337; said:
The post that brought this thread back from the dead after almost 3 months
aka the end of our team's football season
no doubt a reaction to top seed Ohio State losing in the sweet 16 of the tournament.
aka the end of our team's basketball season, and the return to football talk until november.
If the Buckeyes were an 8 seed playing in the Final Four tonight this post would've never been made, and this thread would still be sleeping.
nor would yours, unless you took an entire week to make thus conclusion
Say it ain't so. :wink:
But I'm glad you're here to educate us on why we think and do the things we do :lol:

p.s. in case it did take that long, remind me not to call you with my phone a friend lifeline.
 
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Jake;1902337; said:
The post that brought this thread back from the dead after almost 3 months, no doubt a reaction to top seed Ohio State losing in the sweet 16 of the tournament.

If the Buckeyes were an 8 seed playing in the Final Four tonight this post would've never been made, and this thread would still be sleeping. Say it ain't so. :wink:


Yup. Pretty much...:p

Except the Buckeyes being alive as a #8 seed wouldn't have changed my opinion.
 
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jwinslow;1902322; said:
when at least a week off was justified just for the attempt at cheating alone, let alone the volume or evidence everyone knew they would find within months, if they didn't have it already.*
This statement is not your finest post Josh. Neither Cam or Tress get penalized for what anyone thinks might be found in the future. Everyone can engage in reasonable speculation about it - that is the discussion part of a board. But seriously!! - complaining because the NCAA or the institution failed to act on what might be found? That's bat certifiable [Mark May]! :crazy: Tress does not get punished for haters hatin' and speculating, and Newton does not get punished for haters hatin' and speculating - at least not because Cam's dad offered (and was denied and turned in by) Mississippi State - unless you have proof of illegal benefits paid Cam or his dad by Auburn.

Time will tell. I'm betting they get hammered.

*And the "if they didn't have it already" does not change anything - they either have proof or they do not - at this time.
 
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Gatorubet;1902467; said:
This statement is not your finest post Josh. Neither Cam or Tress get penalized for what anyone thinks might be found in the future. Everyone can engage in reasonable speculation about it - that is the discussion part of a board. But seriously!! - complaining because the NCAA or the institution failed to act on what might be found? That's bat certifiable [Mark May]! :crazy: Tress does not get punished for haters hatin' and speculating, and Newton does not get punished for haters hatin' and speculating - at least not because Cam's dad offered (and was denied and turned in by) Mississippi State - unless you have proof of illegal benefits paid Cam or his dad by Auburn.

Time will tell. I'm betting they get hammered.

*And the "if they didn't have it already" does not change anything - they either have proof or they do not - at this time.
Seriously? You're painting the NCAA into a black and white set of absolutes, Ye who loves the gray?

They have a long history that suggests otherwise. They have frequently chosen to look the other way or crush a smaller program like OU basketball while football escapes largely unscathed despite a long standing pattern of improper benefits at big red motors spanning the decade and a lot of players.

My wording was sloppy, as is this post :p

I'm talking about what they know but don't have packaged neatly into a formal investigation that they may or may not act choose to act upon. They knew enough of the sordid details to at least wait a week before reinstating his eligibility.

I realize players should not be suspended for later revelations.

My point was they had proof he tried to cheat, conflicting and changing stories from the newtons, and a number of testimonies and side investigations implicating not only newton but the entire university. There was more than enough smoke to at least deliberate for a week.

If dillon Baxter doesn't get his eligibility restored until after one week/game goes by because he rode on a golf cart with a pseudo agent, they could certainly wait a week to decide that it is ok to actively shop your kid for violations as long as there is a laughable loophole, even if you accept the unbelievable caveat that he never sought similar monies from auburn.

But newton was the cash cow of CFB so they raced to get him back on the field.
 
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SmoovP;1902501; said:
Tat5. Sugar Bowl.

Really the Tat5 sold items that were theirs...they owned them plain and simple....no one just handed their parents money for selling them to a school....and time actually did transpire (at least more than a week) while the NCAA looked into it and suspended them....
 
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