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Saw31;1900025; said:
So an NCAA playoff produces "the best team" to claim a Nat'l Championship eh? That regular season sure means a lot now, don't it...
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You're right! We should abolish playoffs in all sports. Just vote for the two "best" teams at the end of the season and have your "championship" game. No more World Series, no more NFL playoffs, why waste time when sportswriters "know" who the best teams really are based on the regular season? Great idea.

By the way, the season for over 90% of college football teams is over by the end of September. They have NO CHANCE of winning the title because they're never going to get voted into the game. Does their regular season mean a lot? They're playing out the string by their 5th game.

The NCAA tournament, and every other playoff, shows the folly of thinking we can select two teams just by comparing their records in the regular season. That's why every sport but college football has a playoff.
 
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Saw31;1900025; said:
So an NCAA playoff produces "the best team" to claim a Nat'l Championship eh? That regular season sure means a lot now, don't it...
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Are you suggesting they should have just had a BCS-like Title Game between tOSU and Kansas?

There would be millions needing treatment for 'bracket withdrawal'.
 
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Jake;1900042; said:
The NCAA tournament, and every other playoff, shows the folly of thinking we can select two teams just by comparing their records in the regular season. That's why every sport but college football has a playoff.
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Bingo. Which is why, as we've all somewhat agreed upon, that the reasoning behind there NOT being a playoff in CFB has little if nothing to do with "sanctity of the regular season" or some equally as asinine bullshit and has everything to do with the almighty dolla.

It's a crock, but it is what it is.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1900048; said:
Bingo. Which is why, as we've all somewhat agreed upon, that the reasoning behind there NOT being a playoff in CFB has little if nothing to do with "sanctity of the regular season" or some equally as asinine bullshit and has everything to do with the almighty dolla.

It's a crock, but it is what it is.
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[bkb]Hey, I'm part of 'all', and I haven't 'somewhat agreed' to jack-shit. [/bkb]
 
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Bingo. Which is why, as we've all somewhat agreed upon, that the reasoning behind there NOT being a playoff in CFB has little if nothing to do with "sanctity of the regular season" or some equally as asinine bullshit and has everything to do with the almighty dolla.
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It's quite true that money & sponsorships are what protect the BCS from being replaced.
It's also quite true that a postseason tournament would make the regular season less suspenseful. Playing #2 texas is fun but not as suspenseful when you know you can lose and still make the tournament. Same with UM & OSU in 06. Sure you want to be a top seed, but it would change the stakes considerably.
By the way, the season for over 90% of college football teams is over by the end of September.
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1) False. 19 of the top-25 were undefeated at the end of september. The others had 1 loss.

2) the flipside is a lot of weak teams can play well for about a month or two down the stretch and make the dance.
 
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jwinslow;1900054; said:
It's quite true that money & sponsorships are what protect the BCS from being replaced.
It's also quite true that a postseason tournament would make the regular season less suspenseful. Playing #2 texas is fun but not as suspenseful when you know you can lose and still make the tournament. Same with UM & OSU in 06. Sure you want to be a top seed, but it would change the stakes considerably.1) False. 19 of the top-25 were undefeated at the end of september. The others had 1 loss.

2) the flipside is a lot of weak teams can play well for about a month or two down the stretch and make the dance.
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Actually, there are 120 D1 teams. So if 19 were undefeated at the end of September, his statement was pretty close - 84.2% of teams are [censored]ed at that point as far as the BCSNCG goes, seeing as it usually takes an undefeated season to reach the NC, (Or if not, the odds of you losing another game when you have lost one in September already is generally pretty high, considering the beginning of most teams seasons are OOC cupcakes).

And not to pick fights, but your point about suspense seems a bit non-sensical. Sure, #1 tOSU vs #2 scUM is less suspenseful at the end of the season if there is a playoff that involves both of them to follow. However, that playoff itself would surely be of equal or more suspense, would it not? I mean, say what you will about tournaments, but I don't think anyone can argue that March Madness is not madness, nor that the madness does not equate to suspense.
 
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DiaBuckeye;1900097; said:
And not to pick fights, but your point about suspense seems a bit non-sensical. Sure, #1 tOSU vs #2 scUM is less suspenseful at the end of the season if there is a playoff that involves both of them to follow. However, that playoff itself would surely be of equal or more suspense, would it not? I mean, say what you will about tournaments, but I don't think anyone can argue that March Madness is not madness, nor that the madness does not equate to suspense.
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You just confirmed his point. Playoffs diminish the regular season.
 
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Jake;1900042; said:
The NCAA tournament, and every other playoff, shows the folly of thinking we can select two teams just by comparing their records in the regular season. That's why every sport but Div I-A (FBS) college football has a playoff.
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For those anti-playoff folks, if a playoff would be so bad for college football, why does I-AA, II, III, and NAIA have them?
 
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DiaBuckeye;1900097; said:
Actually, there are 120 D1 teams. So if 19 were undefeated at the end of September, his statement was pretty close - 84.2% of teams are [censored]ed at that point as far as the BCSNCG goes, seeing as it usually takes an undefeated season to reach the NC, (Or if not, the odds of you losing another game when you have lost one in September already is generally pretty high, considering the beginning of most teams seasons are OOC cupcakes).
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most cfb teams were not in the hunt when they were 0-0 and still won't be with a playoff. Of the few dozen who actually have a shot, most still have a shot with one loss. A playoff would likely add six teams, or 1% more to the postseason NC festivities.
And not to pick fights, but your point about suspense seems a bit non-sensical.
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duke UNC is just another quality basketball game. They get all excited about it, but losing it doesn't really prevent a team from earning a one seed. That is where the suspense comment comes from.

Cfb is great because every game means everything.

Leagues with playoffs have a few big games in a season, most are pretty much like the rest, and the outcome isn't a big deal as long as you don't lose too often. Heck, sometimes people think it is easier on teams if they lose and are brought down to earth a bit, like OSU vs Wisconsin.

A game like Purdue would be shrugged off much more quickly with a playoff system.

Sure, #1 tOSU vs #2 scUM is less suspenseful at the end of the season if there is a playoff that involves both of them to follow.
However, that playoff itself would surely be of equal or more suspense, would it not? I mean, say what you will about tournaments, but I don't think anyone can argue that March Madness is not madness, nor that the madness does not equate to suspense.
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but most teams will play 0-2 games in that madness, while most of their twelve regular season games just became less pivotal and emotional.
 
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