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AuburnBuckeye;1492250; said:
It could be argued that the BCS is unfair for 3-10 while the playoff is unfair for 9-10.
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Actually.....it could be argued that the BCS/current playoff system seems "unfair" to fans of teams 3-116 if they happen to be undefeated and come out on the wrong end of the tie breaking system that is currently in place.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1492263; said:
Your point being what? If it was my contention that the BCS helped Boise in this situation your remark would have some relevance to me. As it is, I think you're ignoring the fact that I could give less than a [censored] about "fair"

My entire point is playoff proponents toss the word "fair" around but they don't really mean it.
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I do..... I am in for what is best for teams that deserve a shot at the title. My point by the post you quoted is that a #9 team isn't necessarily getting hosed that bad if they weren't going to have a shot at the title in the first place in a BCS system.
 
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AuburnBuckeye;1492270; said:
I do..... I am in for what is best for teams that deserve a shot at the title. My point by the post you quoted is that a #9 team isn't necessarily getting hosed that bad if they weren't going to have a shot at the title in the first place in a BCS system.
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Here we are again with who 'deserves' something....

Give me a list of teams who "deserved" something in each BCS year, starting in 1998.
 
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Jaxbuck;1492269; said:
Actually.....it could be argued that the BCS/current playoff system seems "unfair" to fans of teams 3-116 if they happen to be undefeated and come out on the wrong end of the tie breaking system that is currently in place.
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I agree. But a playoff would remedy this. Unless ofcourse the undefeated team isn't voted in the top 8. In which case the voters are at fault.
 
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AuburnBuckeye;1492277; said:
Teams ranked 1-8 each year. :wink2:
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First off, that's nonsense. But, the point I was going to illustrate was the number of teams who deserve anything varies from year to year.

In 2008 Texas is the poster child for "deserving" In 2007 you had all kinds of 2 loss teams making the argument they "deserved" it instead of LSU... teams included Georgia, Hawaii, Virginia Tech and USC if memory serves.

So, to include the "deserving" we have to wait each year to know how many teams we're going to invite? Nonsense.

Likewise, another angle on "deserving"

In 2001 what else did Miami of Florida have to do to prove they were Champs? Did they "deserve" to have to play 2 more games? How about 2002 Ohio State - after 14 games, did they "deserve" having to play a 15th and maybe a 16th game to "prove" something?
 
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AuburnBuckeye;1492275; said:
I agree. But a playoff would remedy this. Unless ofcourse the undefeated team isn't voted in the top 8. In which case the voters are at fault.
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Only for fans of teams 3-8 in years that they were undefeated.

That doesn't happen enough to warrant changing the greatest regular season in sports imo.
 
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Not quite sure how to word it, but beating two quality squads and advancing to the finals and then losing would earn more credibility for OSU than simply being awarded an exclusive spot and failing yet again.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1492288; said:
First off, that's nonsense. But, the point I was going to illustrate was the number of teams who deserve anything varies from year to year.

In 2008 Texas is the poster child for "deserving" In 2007 you had all kinds of 2 loss teams making the argument they "deserved" it instead of LSU... teams included Georgia, Hawaii, Virginia Tech and USC if memory serves.

So, to include the "deserving" we have to wait each year to know how many teams we're going to invite? Nonsense.

Likewise, another angle on "deserving"

In 2001 what else did Miami of Florida have to do to prove they were Champs? Did they "deserve" to have to play 2 more games? How about 2002 Ohio State - after 14 games, did they "deserve" having to play a 15th and maybe a 16th game to "prove" something?
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There is always going to be years in sports when there really only seems to be a few legit teams. But playoffs work just fine in those scenarios. This is just here to give teams that were at a 3-5 spot that are just as good as the teams at the 1-2 a chance to play for the title. Besides if a #1 or #2 ranked team is so far superior they should be able to handle themselves out on the field, and if they get upset.... well thats what makes sports so magical, nothing is set in stone.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;1492288; said:
First off, that's nonsense. But, the point I was going to illustrate was the number of teams who deserve anything varies from year to year.

In 2008 Texas is the poster child for "deserving" In 2007 you had all kinds of 2 loss teams making the argument they "deserved" it instead of LSU... teams included Georgia, Hawaii, Virginia Tech and USC if memory serves.

So, to include the "deserving" we have to wait each year to know how many teams we're going to invite? Nonsense.

Likewise, another angle on "deserving"

In 2001 what else did Miami of Florida have to do to prove they were Champs? Did they "deserve" to have to play 2 more games? How about 2002 Ohio State - after 14 games, did they "deserve" having to play a 15th and maybe a 16th game to "prove" something?
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I think it's fairly clear that what AuburnBuckeye primarily wants, is for any system that would prevent 2004 Auburn from getting passed by, to replace the system that allowed that to happen. And while I don't think that's objectively the right way to go about it, if I'm being honest, maybe I'd feel somewhat inclined in that direction if that had happened to OSU.
 
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zincfinger;1492303; said:
I think it's fairly clear that what AuburnBuckeye primarily wants is for any system that would prevent 2004 Auburn from getting passed by to replace the system that allowed that to happen. And while I don't think that's objectively the right way to go about it, if I'm being honest, maybe I'd feel somewhat inclined in that direction if that had happened to OSU.
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I'm not really even that concerned about it happening to Auburn again. ( They got a mountain to climb before they're back in the picture) I just want to prevent it from happening to another team.
 
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