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College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)

MFW we ruined Auburn's season and Top 10 Ranking, yet again.

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They wouldn't hold the 2 spot, but it'd be pretty damn hard to defend moving us from 2 to 5 while winning out. There's more wiggle room for them to do their mental gymnastics this week to keep us out of the 2 spot if they don't want us there without winning the conference. Where they put us tomorrow tells me everything I need to know about how they truly feel about a non-conference winning but clearly top 4 team.

Gerdman said it over the weekend. The BCS found a way to put in 2 teams from the same division into a 2 team playoff. Surely the committee can handle 2 out of 4 teams.
My guess is that it wouldn't be hard for them at all, depending on who the conference champs are, nor that they feel any need to create "wiggle room." To Gerdeman's comment, it's not clear to my why what happened once under the BCS in any way predicts what they playoff committee will do, because the two are structurally and fundamentally completely different. The BCS was completely constrained by AP, Coaches Poll, and computers. The playoff committee is not.
 
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My guess is that it wouldn't be hard for them at all, depending on who the conference champs are, nor that they feel any need to create "wiggle room." To Gerdeman's comment, it's not clear to my why what happened once under the BCS in any way predicts what they playoff committee will do, because the two are structurally and fundamentally completely different. The BCS was completely constrained by AP, Coaches Poll, and computers. The playoff committee is not.
It's not a predictor.....it's an explanation that people (in the BCS's case, voters....in the current case, the committee) found a way to get who they felt were the best teams into a matchup of just 2 teams. The committee can let in 2 from the same division if it's warranted, and still allow for other people to play along, too. It's LESS ludicrous this time than it was when they let the BCS do it.
 
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It's not a predictor.....it's an explanation that people (in the BCS's case, voters....in the current case, the committee) found a way to get who they felt were the best teams into a matchup of just 2 teams. The committee can let in 2 from the same division if it's warranted, and still allow for other people to play along, too. It's LESS ludicrous this time than it was when they let the BCS do it.
If it has no predictive relevance, why are we talking about it in this thread?
 
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Because this isn't a "predict the final CFP standings" thread.
Correct, it's the "College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)" thread. I'm not trying to be a wiseguy, or say you can't mention a BCS outcome from 4 years ago; I'm just not sure what argument you're advancing if it's not that the 4 year old BCS result is somewhat of a predictive guide to what is likely to happen this year.
 
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Correct, it's the "College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)" thread. I'm not trying to be a wiseguy, or say you can't mention a BCS outcome from 4 years ago; I'm just not sure what argument you're advancing if it's not that the 4 year old BCS result is somewhat of a predictive guide to what is likely to happen this year.
Well I spelled it out for you, but here.....let me do it again.

In the BCS, only 2 teams got in. One year, 2 of those teams were from the same division.
In the CFP, twice as many teams get in.
So when the previous system allowed for 2/2 teams from the same division...it's not unheard of to think the system that allows twice as many teams can also have 2 teams from the same conference or division.

It's not a prediction, it's a talking point.
 
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Well I spelled it out for you, but here.....let me do it again.

In the BCS, only 2 teams got in. One year, 2 of those teams were from the same division.
In the CFP, twice as many teams get in.
So when the previous system allowed for 2/2 teams from the same division...it's not unheard of to think the system that allows twice as many teams can also have 2 teams from the same conference or division.

It's not a prediction, it's a talking point.
It kind of sounds like you're saying, "I'm not saying 2012 BCS has any predictive relevance to 2016-17 CFP, but 2012 BCS has predictive relevance to 2016-17 CFP."
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Better yet, Howard Dean circa 2003: "I'm not saying George Bush set up 9/11, I'm just asking questions."
 
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That is what was said, including by myself, about a 4 team playoff

I was obviously wrong, the regular seasons aren't ruined by any stretch.

Even at 8, a team isn't going to be able to lose but 1-2 games and still make the playoff.
It's just not necessary.

Why do we have conference championships if the 2 best teams in the conference don't play in them?

It makes no sense.

Divisions are ruining this playoff system.

Wisconsin is the 4th best team in the Big 10 this season and will be playing in the conference championship game.

It's just wrong.

This would solve a lot of problems and make it a hell of a lot easier to select the 4 playoff teams.
 
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This playoff system will never work as long as divisions are around to prevent it from working.

Bottom line is, the best 4 teams will never be in the playoff the way it is right now. That is supposed to be the goal of this system and it is failing.
 
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This playoff system will never work as long as divisions are around to prevent it from working.

Bottom line is, the best 4 teams will never be in the playoff the way it is right now. That is supposed to be the goal of this system and it is failing.
I just hope that they don't expand to 8 before the 4 super conferences are formed, which would give us a pseudo 4 week playoff system.
 
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So... I know this is the Committee thread, but lets just talk about the stupid AP & Coaches poll for a moment...

Here are all the problems

EVERYTHING EXCEPT #1 & #2.

-Why isn't Wisconsin above Clemson? Clemson should be further down. They've nearly lost many times this season and it was inevitable they would lose at some point. Is this really a surprise?
-If you're going to argue Wisconsin isn't #4 because scUM beat Wisconsin, then how can you put Louisville#3 above #5 Clemson???
-Despite Washington's loss to #20 USC, it's still #7? If this is the case with the rankings tomorrow, it's clear they're still keeping Washington in the mix and we REALLY need them to lose...because it looks like they're going to justify Washington as "in" some way or another and pick Clemson, Bama and Wisky (maybe). We need Washington gone. They need to drop one. We need that WAY more than Louisville losing. I don't think we need to worry about Oklahoma--although if they drop 100 on OK St. maybe.
-#9 PSU???? FUCK WHAT? What have these shits done to deserve a Top 10 rating? BARELY win against Indy, I guess.


Here's the kicker....The AP STILL. HAS. Texas A&M RANKED!!!!BWHAHAHAHAHA....

Texas A&M, who lost to Miss St & Ole Piss two weeks in a row is deserving of the #23 spot.

In other news, Troy is ranked #25. Apparently for the first time ever.

These people are on crack.

Carry on.
 
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This is going to look a lot different in 2-3 weeks than it does now. If PSU loses, then OSU's path is clear. If they don't, we have reason to worry, but there are multiple things that can happen to get Ohio State in good position to get in anyway. I tend to think that when the dust all settles, we may have some controversy with #4 vs. #5, but it is also possible that the committee will name the 4 teams and we all go, "Can't really argue with that."
 
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