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My guess is that it wouldn't be hard for them at all, depending on who the conference champs are, nor that they feel any need to create "wiggle room." To Gerdeman's comment, it's not clear to my why what happened once under the BCS in any way predicts what they playoff committee will do, because the two are structurally and fundamentally completely different. The BCS was completely constrained by AP, Coaches Poll, and computers. The playoff committee is not.They wouldn't hold the 2 spot, but it'd be pretty damn hard to defend moving us from 2 to 5 while winning out. There's more wiggle room for them to do their mental gymnastics this week to keep us out of the 2 spot if they don't want us there without winning the conference. Where they put us tomorrow tells me everything I need to know about how they truly feel about a non-conference winning but clearly top 4 team.
Gerdman said it over the weekend. The BCS found a way to put in 2 teams from the same division into a 2 team playoff. Surely the committee can handle 2 out of 4 teams.
It's not a predictor.....it's an explanation that people (in the BCS's case, voters....in the current case, the committee) found a way to get who they felt were the best teams into a matchup of just 2 teams. The committee can let in 2 from the same division if it's warranted, and still allow for other people to play along, too. It's LESS ludicrous this time than it was when they let the BCS do it.My guess is that it wouldn't be hard for them at all, depending on who the conference champs are, nor that they feel any need to create "wiggle room." To Gerdeman's comment, it's not clear to my why what happened once under the BCS in any way predicts what they playoff committee will do, because the two are structurally and fundamentally completely different. The BCS was completely constrained by AP, Coaches Poll, and computers. The playoff committee is not.
If it has no predictive relevance, why are we talking about it in this thread?It's not a predictor.....it's an explanation that people (in the BCS's case, voters....in the current case, the committee) found a way to get who they felt were the best teams into a matchup of just 2 teams. The committee can let in 2 from the same division if it's warranted, and still allow for other people to play along, too. It's LESS ludicrous this time than it was when they let the BCS do it.
Because this isn't a "predict the final CFP standings" thread.If it has no predictive relevance, why are we talking about it in this thread?
Correct, it's the "College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)" thread. I'm not trying to be a wiseguy, or say you can't mention a BCS outcome from 4 years ago; I'm just not sure what argument you're advancing if it's not that the 4 year old BCS result is somewhat of a predictive guide to what is likely to happen this year.Because this isn't a "predict the final CFP standings" thread.
Well I spelled it out for you, but here.....let me do it again.Correct, it's the "College Football Playoff (2016-2017 Season)" thread. I'm not trying to be a wiseguy, or say you can't mention a BCS outcome from 4 years ago; I'm just not sure what argument you're advancing if it's not that the 4 year old BCS result is somewhat of a predictive guide to what is likely to happen this year.
It kind of sounds like you're saying, "I'm not saying 2012 BCS has any predictive relevance to 2016-17 CFP, but 2012 BCS has predictive relevance to 2016-17 CFP."Well I spelled it out for you, but here.....let me do it again.
In the BCS, only 2 teams got in. One year, 2 of those teams were from the same division.
In the CFP, twice as many teams get in.
So when the previous system allowed for 2/2 teams from the same division...it's not unheard of to think the system that allows twice as many teams can also have 2 teams from the same conference or division.
It's not a prediction, it's a talking point.
It's just not necessary.That is what was said, including by myself, about a 4 team playoff
I was obviously wrong, the regular seasons aren't ruined by any stretch.
Even at 8, a team isn't going to be able to lose but 1-2 games and still make the playoff.
I just hope that they don't expand to 8 before the 4 super conferences are formed, which would give us a pseudo 4 week playoff system.This playoff system will never work as long as divisions are around to prevent it from working.
Bottom line is, the best 4 teams will never be in the playoff the way it is right now. That is supposed to be the goal of this system and it is failing.
I'd like to see us give this system a chance to work before expanding the field. Because right now it's impossible.I just hope that they don't expand to 8 before the 4 super conferences are formed, which would give us a pseudo 4 week playoff system.